What did you do with your Grenadier today?

[CRH]

Neither do I go down that root.
Not "rowt" , all you silly infleunced Aussie youtubers

An English man would say 'route' if we are being pedantic
Arh!! youtube, ruining the English language the world over

 

[Tazzieman]

An English man would say 'route' if we are being pedantic
Arh!! youtube, ruining the English language the world over

Yes , route - as in beetroot. Root vegetable. Rowt is for seppos who say rooster , not cock
It all started to go south when people in silicon valley invented routers.

 

[landmannnn]

An English man would say 'route' if we are being pedantic
Arh!! youtube, ruining the English language the world over

Although if an Englishman were using one of these routers it would be pronounced rowt.


A disorderly retreat is a rout, also pronounced rowt.

 

[Tazzieman]

The above is all true, and it is always the Canning Stock Root , so if you're Australian , remember it's unAustralian to pronounce it differently!

 

[Zimm]

I would never dream of taking that title from @Zimm

Curmudgeon's are sane.

 

[Zimm]

Dammit why doesn’t the aftermarket do something useful and come up with something for this? Probably my biggest irritant on the Grenadier, living up here on the North Pole.

The issue I think, is this may be the least aerodynamic car I've driven, and I've owned every brick there is. Sure its square, but it does look like they chamfered all the sharp edges, which, is apparently misleading. I drove off without wiping the snow, and not only is there a vortex in front the windshield, but it works so well with the airflow over the front end, it was DEPOSITING snow on the very leading edge of the front hood at 75mph. It wasn't just a low pressure zone or turbulent right above the middle of the hood, but air over the surface of the hood is moving 10mph faster than the hood itself. It's like a pickup bed, but in front. ... That alone may be the cause of the slight highway wandering. It's looking to swap ends like shooting an arrow backward's, or letting off the gas coming out of a turn in a 1980 911 turbo. The only thing keeping us straight at all, may be the polar vortex created by the slab cut rear end. This truck creates drag by mere human observation. It's quantum. No wonder I'm getting 14mpg.

 

[AaronS]

This truck creates drag by mere human observation.

 

[anand]

It's looking to swap ends like letting off the gas coming out of a turn in a 1980 911 turbo.

930 3.0 turbos.... by the time the turbo spools and you get the power you want, you're mid corner but if you lift it'll definitely try to kill you

 

[CRH]

The issue I think, is this may be the least aerodynamic car I've driven, and I've owned every brick there is. Sure its square, but it does look like they chamfered all the sharp edges, which, is apparently misleading. I drove off without wiping the snow, and not only is there a vortex in front the windshield, but it works so well with the airflow over the front end, it was DEPOSITING snow on the very leading edge of the front hood at 75mph. It wasn't just a low pressure zone or turbulent right above the middle of the hood, but air over the surface of the hood is moving 10mph faster than the hood itself. It's like a pickup bed, but in front. ... That alone may be the cause of the slight highway wandering. It's looking to swap ends like shooting an arrow backward's, or letting off the gas coming out of a turn in a 1980 911 turbo. The only thing keeping us straight at all, may be the polar vortex created by the slab cut rear end. This truck creates drag by mere human observation. It's quantum. No wonder I'm getting 14mpg.

I was creating a nice snowball on the bonnet of of mine the other week. I think I was maintaining a speed between 20-40mph.

 

[CRH]

930 3.0 turbos.... by the time the turbo spools and you get the power you want, you're mid corner but if you lift it'll definitely try to kill you

Wasn't that part of the fun
Proves you're a real man, a dead one, but a real one.

 

[Zimm]

930 3.0 turbos.... by the time the turbo spools and you get the power you want, you're mid corner but if you lift it'll definitely try to kill you

I had an acquaintance 30 years ago that ran a 944, and decided to race his dads 911. Totaled it. Well, more like I knew him well. I didn’t like him.

 

[Tazzieman]

When I bought my 911 I heeded the advice from old timers. Get all your braking done before the corner and don't accelerate hard until the car is pointing straight.
Or else

 

[CrazyOldMan]

The issue I think, is this may be the least aerodynamic car I've driven, and I've owned every brick there is. Sure its square, but it does look like they chamfered all the sharp edges, which, is apparently misleading. I drove off without wiping the snow, and not only is there a vortex in front the windshield, but it works so well with the airflow over the front end, it was DEPOSITING snow on the very leading edge of the front hood at 75mph. It wasn't just a low pressure zone or turbulent right above the middle of the hood, but air over the surface of the hood is moving 10mph faster than the hood itself. It's like a pickup bed, but in front. ... That alone may be the cause of the slight highway wandering. It's looking to swap ends like shooting an arrow backward's, or letting off the gas coming out of a turn in a 1980 911 turbo. The only thing keeping us straight at all, may be the polar vortex created by the slab cut rear end. This truck creates drag by mere human observation. It's quantum. No wonder I'm getting 14mpg.

Yeah I get it - there will be snow buildup with the vertical face - but what about some sort circular heating element around the lens that would at least help melt it off? Don’t know if that’s a good idea or not - but I hate having to get out and wipe off the lights when the snow is sticky.

 

[Emil]

Just wondering, do you think a light bar behind the grille (like Owl‘s hidden lightbar) would be a feasible solution? Snow-wise it would appear so at least from the picture, however, it won‘t be feasible to drive in traffic with additional 21k lumen.

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Just wondering, do you think a light bar behind the grille (like Owl‘s hidden lightbar) would be a feasible solution? Snow-wise it would appear so at least from the picture, however, it won‘t be feasible to drive in traffic with additional 21k lumen.

It has to work at least as well in snow, if not better, as a couple of Baja’s sticking out on the grill - and no, not legal on road. Since there’s not a heated headlamp wash (nor would I really want that - not on the Grenadier), what I was wondering about was some sort of heating elements over/around the headlamps that could be wired into the aux switch under the hood. I’ve never seen anything like that - just wondering. And I really like that hidden light bar, regardless - looks great and covers different spectrum needs/use-cases.

Something like this?? Not even sure if they work well in snow

 

[Zimm]

Yeah I get it - there will be snow buildup with the vertical face - but what about some sort circular heating element around the lens that would at least help melt it off? Don’t know if that’s a good idea or not - but I hate having to get out and wipe off the lights when the snow is sticky.

some sprayers like my fj60 would have worked nice. I swapped those to JWSpeakers when they first came out, and I use the fluid enough I never noticed this, and that front end is quite the brick. Its an LED thing. Are any car companies heating the leds?

 

[CrazyOldMan]

some sprayers like my fj60 would have worked nice. I swapped those to JWSpeakers when they first came out, and I use the fluid enough I never noticed this, and that front end is quite the brick. Its an LED thing. Are any car companies heating the leds?

What do you think about this? Haven’t heard anything about them

 

[Zimm]

Just wondering, do you think a light bar behind the grille (like Owl‘s hidden lightbar) would be a feasible solution? Snow-wise it would appear so at least from the picture, however, it won‘t be feasible to drive in traffic with additional 21k lumen.

Yea, honestly, I've never much had a use for 14 million lumens cranking from every angle. A set of reproduction 1950's driving lamps using a hella halogen like you'd you'd toss on an MG, is all I think I'm going to set up for the front end specifically for winter driving.

 

[Zimm]

What do you think about this? Haven’t heard anything about them

Neat. But, are not the Gren headlights 8" and Jeeps 7"?

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Neat. But, are not the Gren headlights 8" and Jeeps 7"?

I was just looking for that - you read my mind. Are they 8”? I was also looking at heated options at JW Speaker - also 7”.