UK & Ireland UK Grenadier Sales Figures.

[Shaky]

That’s a cool website.

I knew the UK was tiny in comparison but I didn’t realise the comparable size of Aus to N. America. The disparity in population really set the scene.

 

[Trialmaster]

For clarity, I didn't include the N1 sales - only have the specific for March (N1), but I do have the total. So 160 sales in 2024 of all types.

In January 2024 – 24 vehicles sold.
In February 2024 – 8 vehicles were sold
In March 2024 – 38 vehicle were sold (M1)
In March 2024 - 34 vehicles were sold (N1)

Summary - M1 sales to date in 2024: 70
Summary - N1 sales to date in 2024: 90
Total in 2024: 160

 

[rovie]

For clarity, I didn't include the N1 sales - only have the specific for March (N1), but I do have the total. So 160 sales in 2024 of all types.

In January 2024 – 24 vehicles sold.
In February 2024 – 8 vehicles were sold
In March 2024 – 38 vehicle were sold (M1)
In March 2024 - 34 vehicles were sold (N1)

Summary - M1 sales to date in 2024: 70
Summary - N1 sales to date in 2024: 90
Total in 2024: 160

I find such a list very interesting. Thank you.

 

[Grey Wolf]

For clarity, I didn't include the N1 sales - only have the specific for March (N1), but I do have the total. So 160 sales in 2024 of all types.

In January 2024 – 24 vehicles sold.
In February 2024 – 8 vehicles were sold
In March 2024 – 38 vehicle were sold (M1)
In March 2024 - 34 vehicles were sold (N1)

Summary - M1 sales to date in 2024: 70
Summary - N1 sales to date in 2024: 90
Total in 2024: 160

So. 841 in 2023 plus the 160 . The UK has around 1000 vehicles. It must be one or the rarest cars on the road in the UK.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Just completed a 300 mile round trip between Cheshire and Hertfordshire. Saw exactly zero Grenadiers outside the one I was driving. Ironically there are three within a mile of where I live.

 

[Eric]

Just completed a 300 mile round trip between Cheshire and Hertfordshire. Saw exactly zero Grenadiers outside the one I was driving. Ironically there are three within a mile of where I live.

Since they were launched, I've only seen one "on the road".
Perhaps I need to get out more

 

[Shaky]

Just completed a 300 mile round trip between Cheshire and Hertfordshire. Saw exactly zero Grenadiers outside the one I was driving. Ironically there are three within a mile of where I live.

Similar story, been to Bristol and back twice now in the last couple of months, so 400 miles in total. Most of that done on the M5 (motorway) and seen the same (zero).

This really shows what a crazy place Abersoch in Wales is. A tiny little village on the coast but a very popular tourist village with lots of wealthy people from the North West of England having holiday homes there. Last summer I counted 6 including mine in one day. I happened to drive down the Main Street one evening and drove past one parked up and then realised that I was being followed by another one.

Outside of Abersoch I have seen two others on the road and one other parked on a drive about 6 miles away from me.

 

[ECrider]

Another point of contention for UK buyers is clawing back the VAT. There was assumption the N1 would get their VAT back but it did not qualify

fresh in;

Introducing Grenadier Commercial. With a flat floor and a full-height cargo barrier behind the front seats, you’ll have over 2,000 litres of loadspace, and be able to carry a standard Euro pallet.

Aimed at businesses that need a capable 4X4, it boasts the same great capability and specification as the original 2-seater Utility Wagon it replaces. But with specific changes that mean HMRC has confirmed you’ll be able to reclaim VAT.

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[Logsplitter]

Yes just had that myself.

 

[trobex]

The UK has the same RHD footwell intrusion which makes overall cabin comfort extremely poor compared to just about every other $120K:2023+ model SUV/4X4 on the market. It's the number one reason that no one I personally know has gone through with a purchase. My wife loves to drive it though so that is why I'm keeping it. This is just my take on the truck after the first 13,000km if use. I'm bringing this up because it's how the design played out and the final take is discomfort. So looking for a suitable lumbar support too...

In summary. There is a large amount of more comfortable vehicles on the market at the price point, irrespective of how good the offroad is (it think it is very good) and general driving performance.

Add whatever UK tax issues have arisen and that will just add to alternative choices being taken.

 

[Cheshire cat]

The UK has the same RHD footwell intrusion which makes overall cabin comfort extremely poor compared to just about every other $120K:2023+ model SUV/4X4 on the market. It's the number one reason that no one I personally know has gone through with a purchase. My wife loves to drive it though so that is why I'm keeping it. This is just my take on the truck after the first 13,000km if use. I'm bringing this up because it's how the design played out and the final take is discomfort. So looking for a suitable lumbar support too...

In summary. There is a large amount of more comfortable vehicles on the market at the price point, irrespective of how good the offroad is (it think it is very good) and general driving performance.

Add whatever UK tax issues have arisen and that will just add to alternative choices being taken.

Have to say. I don’t find the intrusion much of an issue however, when a solution is found that gets rid of it, I would probably go for it purely on the basis that it currently looks a little weird and seems to annoy people.
Also like to add that your wife has great taste when it comes to cars, at least.

 

[trobex]

Have to say. I don’t find the intrusion much of an issue however, when a solution is found that gets rid of it, I would probably go for it purely on the basis that it currently looks a little weird and seems to annoy people.
Also like to add that your wife has great taste when it comes to cars, at least.

She loves.. albeit sometimes swears at me when the turning circle forces a 3 or 5 point turn

 

[Cheshire cat]

She loves.. albeit sometimes swears at me when the turning circle forces a 3 or 5 point turn

Toying with the idea of Eibach wheel spacers with a view to reducing turning circle. Not 100% sure it would have an effect but the look wouldn’t upset me either.

 

[JonSutton]

Toying with the idea of Eibach wheel spacers with a view to reducing turning circle. Not 100% sure it would have an effect but the look wouldn’t upset me either.

Yes turning not great, especially when dealing with a trailer reverse but better than the old 110. Also way better towing with an audio system that isn’t just the sound from a compression ignition engine.
Not a fan of spacers having used a set for a few years on a 90 NAS lookalike. Seemed to put quite a lot of stress on hub bearings and linkages.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Yes turning not great, especially when dealing with a trailer reverse but better than the old 110. Also way better towing with an audio system that isn’t just the sound from a compression ignition engine.
Not a fan of spacers having used a set for a few years on a 90 NAS lookalike. Seemed to put quite a lot of stress on hub bearings and linkages.

Hi Jon
I hear where you are coming from but have you seen the size of the componentry on the Grenadier compared to the old Defender? I have both, but the Grenadier makes the Defender underpinnings look comically small. I also figure that if built by Eibach, they will be of a decent quality.

 

[AWo]

April 20204: 26 Grenadier registered in the UK regarding to SMMT. That's -8 compared to March and 96 in total in 2024.

AWo

 

[Cheshire cat]

April 20204: 26 Grenadier registered in the UK regarding to SMMT. That's -8 compared to March and 96 in total in 2024.

AWo

Not sounding like we will be seeing an abundance of Grenadiers anytime soon. I will just have to enjoy the exclusivity

 

[AWo]

I ask my self how the dealers compensate this? Are there Ineos-exclusively dealers? Of course, registration follows sales, but at least there will be a registration after a sale with some timely distance, won't it? Even if sales may go up in the US, good for Ineos if that is the case, but how to keep the European dealers satisfied?

AWo

 

[rovie]

Not sounding like we will be seeing an abundance of Grenadiers anytime soon. I will just have to enjoy the exclusivity

Yes, that's how I see it too. I also enjoy the exclusivity and support my dealers, not just the Ineos dealer, by having all maintenance and repairs carried out there and buying oils there. Not like some who report that they bring their cheaply bought oil to their dealers. A good partnership, both private and business, looks different to me. I have already benefited from it several times. But everyone should do as they see fit.

 

[landmannnn]

The default choice for most UK buyers in this sector is the new Defender. The nearest they will get to off road driving is parking on the overspill car park at the garden centre.

There's 3 in my street (12 houses) and just get used as normal cars. If they break, a call to the leasing company is all that's required.

Actually, none of them like them and will lease something else when the 3 years is up.