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I have just returned from a trip to the Kimberley region of Western Australia in my diesel Grenadier Trialmaster, towing a 16ft hybrid off-road pop top caravan (tare weight 2000kg, loaded weight about 2400kg, tow ball weight approx 230kg).

Covered 8500km in 31 days: Perth to Kununurra (for the Ord River Muster) via Meekatharra, Newman, Port Hedland, 80 Mile Beach, Fitzroy Crossing and Halls Creek. A few days at Lake Argyle then back to El Questro Station (off the Gibb River Road) to Mt Hart Station via Halls Creek and Fitzroy Crossing (Gibb River Rd direct to Mt Hart from the north east was closed due to high water at the Pentecost River crossing), Derby, Dampier Peninsula, back to the Great Northern Highway (via Marble Bar) and home to Perth.

I was very nervous before I set out: no Ineos service centres in WA other than Perth and no spares north of Perth. The Grenadier never missed a beat, fantastic to drive over long distances (even when towing), 6 – 8 hours at the wheel most days, comfortable Recaro seats (the right hand drive, left foot hump is a total non-issue for me), brilliant performance on the roads, both corrugated dirt and bitumen, plenty of power for overtaking 60 meter road trains (even uphill) and reasonable fuel consumption (overall average15.3 L/100km and about 80% of the total distance was towing). 14.5 to 16.0 L/100km towing with a tailwind and 16.0 to 17.8 into a headwind or in hilly terrain. The vehicle with caravan sits in 8th gear happily at 1600rpm, handles gentle uphill slopes without a downshift and only drops into 7th (or occasionally 6th gear) on the steeper hills. I usually sat on 90 - 95km/hr into the wind and 95 – 100km/hr downwind. Fuel consumption rises rapidly above 100km/hr when towing, especially into the wind.

Only drama was a cracked windscreen on the Gibb River Rd from an errant stone from a truck going the other way. Clear packaging tape stopped the crack from spreading too far and it all held together until we got home. Carried two 20 L jerry cans of diesel in the caravan (just in case) but never needed it.

Diesel prices varied enormously ($1.93/L in Perth, up to $2.50/L along Great Northern Highway, back to $2.00/L in Port Hedland and Kununurra but very expensive in the more remote areas ($2.80/L at El Questro Station and $3.20/L at Mt Hart station). The Grenadier fuel filler is a bit of a pain, will not accept high flow filler nozzle.

This is the best and most capable long distance touring vehicle I have ever driven. It handled beach sand, rough corrugated dirt roads, flooded creek crossings, rough rocky terrain and slippery muddy tracks with ease. I engaged low gear and the central locker (plus wading mode) fairly often, but never looked like needing the rear or front axle lockers.

For those of you interested, this is my set-up as ordered:

Scottish White Trialmaster (diesel)
17” steel wheels, BFG KO2 tyres
Utility trim, heavy duty seat covers and rubber floor mats
Smooth and rough packs (includes diff lockers front & rear)
Roo-bar and siderunners (steps)
Raised air intake
Auxiliary battery, electrical prep and switch panel
Towing pack & wiring

I placed the order in July 22 and the vehicle was delivered in late November 2023. Cost approx AUD109,000 drive away, no more to pay (hah, hah!). I thought it was expensive when I placed the order, but looking at current prices for competing vehicles it now looks more than reasonable.

I have since added the following:

Stedi light bar, front mounted
ICOM IC-450 UHF
Ctek D250SE linked to the Ctek Smartpass to enable roof rack mounted solar panel charging
Additional dashboard USB charge points for phone and GPS
ARB on-board compressor
Rear compartment Anderson plug for the fridge (direct from auxiliary battery)
Rear bumper Anderson plug (from auxiliary battery) for caravan charging and running the dust suppression system in the van on the road
Redarc Tow-Pro Elite electric brake controller for towing
Low profile Rhino-Rack steel mesh roof rack (can’t get into my garage with the big Rhino Rack designed for the Grenadier)
Sphere permanent rear viewing camera system for both the car and caravan.

Next addition is the Brown-Davis long range fuel tank extension (68 litres) which incorporates a high flow diesel filling port. Will probably add Air-Bag Man pneumatics to the rear springs to account for the added fuel and tank weight (if needed).

Cheers
Wombat51
 

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I have just returned from a trip to the Kimberley region of Western Australia in my diesel Grenadier Trialmaster, towing a 16ft hybrid off-road pop top caravan (tare weight 2000kg, loaded weight about 2400kg, tow ball weight approx 230kg).

Covered 8500km in 31 days: Perth to Kununurra (for the Ord River Muster) via Meekatharra, Newman, Port Hedland, 80 Mile Beach, Fitzroy Crossing and Halls Creek. A few days at Lake Argyle then back to El Questro Station (off the Gibb River Road) to Mt Hart Station via Halls Creek and Fitzroy Crossing (Gibb River Rd direct to Mt Hart from the north east was closed due to high water at the Pentecost River crossing), Derby, Dampier Peninsula, back to the Great Northern Highway (via Marble Bar) and home to Perth.

I was very nervous before I set out: no Ineos service centres in WA other than Perth and no spares north of Perth. The Grenadier never missed a beat, fantastic to drive over long distances (even when towing), 6 – 8 hours at the wheel most days, comfortable Recaro seats (the right hand drive, left foot hump is a total non-issue for me), brilliant performance on the roads, both corrugated dirt and bitumen, plenty of power for overtaking 60 meter road trains (even uphill) and reasonable fuel consumption (overall average15.3 L/100km and about 80% of the total distance was towing). 14.5 to 16.0 L/100km towing with a tailwind and 16.0 to 17.8 into a headwind or in hilly terrain. The vehicle with caravan sits in 8th gear happily at 1600rpm, handles gentle uphill slopes without a downshift and only drops into 7th (or occasionally 6th gear) on the steeper hills. I usually sat on 90 - 95km/hr into the wind and 95 – 100km/hr downwind. Fuel consumption rises rapidly above 100km/hr when towing, especially into the wind.

Only drama was a cracked windscreen on the Gibb River Rd from an errant stone from a truck going the other way. Clear packaging tape stopped the crack from spreading too far and it all held together until we got home. Carried two 20 L jerry cans of diesel in the caravan (just in case) but never needed it.

Diesel prices varied enormously ($1.93/L in Perth, up to $2.50/L along Great Northern Highway, back to $2.00/L in Port Hedland and Kununurra but very expensive in the more remote areas ($2.80/L at El Questro Station and $3.20/L at Mt Hart station). The Grenadier fuel filler is a bit of a pain, will not accept high flow filler nozzle.

This is the best and most capable long distance touring vehicle I have ever driven. It handled beach sand, rough corrugated dirt roads, flooded creek crossings, rough rocky terrain and slippery muddy tracks with ease. I engaged low gear and the central locker (plus wading mode) fairly often, but never looked like needing the rear or front axle lockers.

For those of you interested, this is my set-up as ordered:

Scottish White Trialmaster (diesel)
17” steel wheels, BFG KO2 tyres
Utility trim, heavy duty seat covers and rubber floor mats
Smooth and rough packs (includes diff lockers front & rear)
Roo-bar and siderunners (steps)
Raised air intake
Auxiliary battery, electrical prep and switch panel
Towing pack & wiring

I placed the order in July 22 and the vehicle was delivered in late November 2023. Cost approx AUD109,000 drive away, no more to pay (hah, hah!). I thought it was expensive when I placed the order, but looking at current prices for competing vehicles it now looks more than reasonable.

I have since added the following:

Stedi light bar, front mounted
ICOM IC-450 UHF
Ctek D250SE linked to the Ctek Smartpass to enable roof rack mounted solar panel charging
Additional dashboard USB charge points for phone and GPS
ARB on-board compressor
Rear compartment Anderson plug for the fridge (direct from auxiliary battery)
Rear bumper Anderson plug (from auxiliary battery) for caravan charging and running the dust suppression system in the van on the road
Redarc Tow-Pro Elite electric brake controller for towing
Low profile Rhino-Rack steel mesh roof rack (can’t get into my garage with the big Rhino Rack designed for the Grenadier)
Sphere permanent rear viewing camera system for both the car and caravan.

Next addition is the Brown-Davis long range fuel tank extension (68 litres) which incorporates a high flow diesel filling port. Will probably add Air-Bag Man pneumatics to the rear springs to account for the added fuel and tank weight (if needed).

Cheers
Wombat51
Fantastic.
I am pleased it worked out so well for you.
I will be driving to Rockhampton and Gladstone next week and 2nd week July I will be driving to Cairns and back over a week.
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Great write up @Wombat51. Its on my list to get back up there.

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Thanks for the details, @Wombat51.
Have you been able to source a replacement windscreen and if so, can you share details as to how it will be fitted (dealer or windscreen specialist), cost etc? I copped a golf ball sized rock a few weeks ago... missed the screen but put a dent in the passenger-side A pillar! Last week driving from Bris to Cairns, I wasn't so fortunate --- leaving Gladstone a passing truck sent another causing a "star" strike on passenger side. O'Brien Glass in Rocky said it was too large to glue it and will require replacement... am wondering how to organise it given they have none at present in their inventory in Cairns...
 

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Thanks for the details, @Wombat51.
Have you been able to source a replacement windscreen and if so, can you share details as to how it will be fitted (dealer or windscreen specialist), cost etc? I copped a golf ball sized rock a few weeks ago... missed the screen but put a dent in the passenger-side A pillar! Last week driving from Bris to Cairns, I wasn't so fortunate --- leaving Gladstone a passing truck sent another causing a "star" strike on passenger side. O'Brien Glass in Rocky said it was too large to glue it and will require replacement... am wondering how to organise it given they have none at present in their inventory in Cairns...

Interesting that Cairns doesn’t have windscreens given Justin H mentioned a couple of weeks ago on FB that they (IA) were well stocked??
 
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Thanks for the details, @Wombat51.
Have you been able to source a replacement windscreen and if so, can you share details as to how it will be fitted (dealer or windscreen specialist), cost etc? I copped a golf ball sized rock a few weeks ago... missed the screen but put a dent in the passenger-side A pillar! Last week driving from Bris to Cairns, I wasn't so fortunate --- leaving Gladstone a passing truck sent another causing a "star" strike on passenger side. O'Brien Glass in Rocky said it was too large to glue it and will require replacement... am wondering how to organise it given they have none at present in their inventory in Cairns...
Local Perth Ineos distributor (Magic Enterpises) had one windscreen in stock, I arranged for local installer (Instant Windscreens) to order the stock from Magic. Supposed to be installed at Instant next Tuesday. I have RAC Insurance cover and pay $100 for a replacement windscreen (with no damage to my no-claim bonus). I have no idea how much it will cost the RAC, but I suspect well north of $1000.

Good luck with your replacement!
Wombat51
 

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I have just returned from a trip to the Kimberley region of Western Australia in my diesel Grenadier Trialmaster, towing a 16ft hybrid off-road pop top caravan (tare weight 2000kg, loaded weight about 2400kg, tow ball weight approx 230kg).

Covered 8500km in 31 days: Perth to Kununurra (for the Ord River Muster) via Meekatharra, Newman, Port Hedland, 80 Mile Beach, Fitzroy Crossing and Halls Creek. A few days at Lake Argyle then back to El Questro Station (off the Gibb River Road) to Mt Hart Station via Halls Creek and Fitzroy Crossing (Gibb River Rd direct to Mt Hart from the north east was closed due to high water at the Pentecost River crossing), Derby, Dampier Peninsula, back to the Great Northern Highway (via Marble Bar) and home to Perth.

I was very nervous before I set out: no Ineos service centres in WA other than Perth and no spares north of Perth. The Grenadier never missed a beat, fantastic to drive over long distances (even when towing), 6 – 8 hours at the wheel most days, comfortable Recaro seats (the right hand drive, left foot hump is a total non-issue for me), brilliant performance on the roads, both corrugated dirt and bitumen, plenty of power for overtaking 60 meter road trains (even uphill) and reasonable fuel consumption (overall average15.3 L/100km and about 80% of the total distance was towing). 14.5 to 16.0 L/100km towing with a tailwind and 16.0 to 17.8 into a headwind or in hilly terrain. The vehicle with caravan sits in 8th gear happily at 1600rpm, handles gentle uphill slopes without a downshift and only drops into 7th (or occasionally 6th gear) on the steeper hills. I usually sat on 90 - 95km/hr into the wind and 95 – 100km/hr downwind. Fuel consumption rises rapidly above 100km/hr when towing, especially into the wind.

Only drama was a cracked windscreen on the Gibb River Rd from an errant stone from a truck going the other way. Clear packaging tape stopped the crack from spreading too far and it all held together until we got home. Carried two 20 L jerry cans of diesel in the caravan (just in case) but never needed it.

Diesel prices varied enormously ($1.93/L in Perth, up to $2.50/L along Great Northern Highway, back to $2.00/L in Port Hedland and Kununurra but very expensive in the more remote areas ($2.80/L at El Questro Station and $3.20/L at Mt Hart station). The Grenadier fuel filler is a bit of a pain, will not accept high flow filler nozzle.

This is the best and most capable long distance touring vehicle I have ever driven. It handled beach sand, rough corrugated dirt roads, flooded creek crossings, rough rocky terrain and slippery muddy tracks with ease. I engaged low gear and the central locker (plus wading mode) fairly often, but never looked like needing the rear or front axle lockers.

For those of you interested, this is my set-up as ordered:

Scottish White Trialmaster (diesel)
17” steel wheels, BFG KO2 tyres
Utility trim, heavy duty seat covers and rubber floor mats
Smooth and rough packs (includes diff lockers front & rear)
Roo-bar and siderunners (steps)
Raised air intake
Auxiliary battery, electrical prep and switch panel
Towing pack & wiring

I placed the order in July 22 and the vehicle was delivered in late November 2023. Cost approx AUD109,000 drive away, no more to pay (hah, hah!). I thought it was expensive when I placed the order, but looking at current prices for competing vehicles it now looks more than reasonable.

I have since added the following:

Stedi light bar, front mounted
ICOM IC-450 UHF
Ctek D250SE linked to the Ctek Smartpass to enable roof rack mounted solar panel charging
Additional dashboard USB charge points for phone and GPS
ARB on-board compressor
Rear compartment Anderson plug for the fridge (direct from auxiliary battery)
Rear bumper Anderson plug (from auxiliary battery) for caravan charging and running the dust suppression system in the van on the road
Redarc Tow-Pro Elite electric brake controller for towing
Low profile Rhino-Rack steel mesh roof rack (can’t get into my garage with the big Rhino Rack designed for the Grenadier)
Sphere permanent rear viewing camera system for both the car and caravan.

Next addition is the Brown-Davis long range fuel tank extension (68 litres) which incorporates a high flow diesel filling port. Will probably add Air-Bag Man pneumatics to the rear springs to account for the added fuel and tank weight (if needed).

Cheers
Wombat51
You did well with your price,Shirwin was unsuccessful in matching that for my Oct 23 delivery basic model not as optioned as yours!Could you advise me where in Perth you had your electrical fit out done?I have the same requiremnts of UHF,lithium battery,anderson plugs etc.I met up with other WA owners at the Waroona Dam meet and the only recommendation was Vasse Auto Electrics would like somewhere closer to Perth if possible.Many thanks .Geoff
 
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Hi Geoff

I did most of the simple stuff myself with some advice from a mate who is a retired electronic equipment installer (working on boats mostly), but it is not as neat as a real auto sparky would do and I had a few hiccups, like the brake controller would not work first time around. But the predesigned/installed electrical circuits and switch panel in the Grenadier make owner electrical installation reasonably straightforward.

There are two auto electricians in Norma Road, Myaree, not far from where I live (Autospark and Genie Auto Electrics). I had some work done on my Nissan Patrol at Autospark about 10 years ago and they were fine. I have never dealt with Genie Auto Electrics but there appear to be plenty of customer cars outside their workshop when I pass by.

Write out your specs on what you want and get a few places to quote, you should get a feel for how competent they are after speaking to them.

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You did well with your price,Shirwin was unsuccessful in matching that for my Oct 23 delivery basic model not as optioned as yours!Could you advise me where in Perth you had your electrical fit out done?I have the same requiremnts of UHF,lithium battery,anderson plugs etc.I met up with other WA owners at the Waroona Dam meet and the only recommendation was Vasse Auto Electrics would like somewhere closer to Perth if possible.Many thanks .Geoff
Schultz Automotive in Willetton have been my go to auto sparkies for many years. I bought the Ineos Redarc brake controller kit from Magic and got the Schultz's to fit it along with an Anderson plug to the rear. More details in this post Towing Preparation. I did my own UHF install following John Canny's excellent youtube videos. Its not too hard. Details in this link UHF Radio Install

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Local Perth Ineos distributor (Magic Enterpises) had one windscreen in stock, I arranged for local installer (Instant Windscreens) to order the stock from Magic. Supposed to be installed at Instant next Tuesday. I have RAC Insurance cover and pay $100 for a replacement windscreen (with no damage to my no-claim bonus). I have no idea how much it will cost the RAC, but I suspect well north of $1000.

Good luck with your replacement!
Wombat51
Cost of a new front screen, part only, is pretty much $2k
 
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According to Instant Windscreens, the new screen cost them approx AUD 1200 and they had to get a new top cover strip as well (AUD 480) since the old one is held on with double sided adhesive which is damaged when you remove the old screen.
I do not know what the grand total was they charged my insurer for installation, but had to be north of AUD2500.

Make sure you take out adequate windscreen cover when insuring your Grenadier.

Wombat51
 

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I have just returned from a trip to the Kimberley region of Western Australia in my diesel Grenadier Trialmaster, towing a 16ft hybrid off-road pop top caravan (tare weight 2000kg, loaded weight about 2400kg, tow ball weight approx 230kg).

Covered 8500km in 31 days: Perth to Kununurra (for the Ord River Muster) via Meekatharra, Newman, Port Hedland, 80 Mile Beach, Fitzroy Crossing and Halls Creek. A few days at Lake Argyle then back to El Questro Station (off the Gibb River Road) to Mt Hart Station via Halls Creek and Fitzroy Crossing (Gibb River Rd direct to Mt Hart from the north east was closed due to high water at the Pentecost River crossing), Derby, Dampier Peninsula, back to the Great Northern Highway (via Marble Bar) and home to Perth.

I was very nervous before I set out: no Ineos service centres in WA other than Perth and no spares north of Perth. The Grenadier never missed a beat, fantastic to drive over long distances (even when towing), 6 – 8 hours at the wheel most days, comfortable Recaro seats (the right hand drive, left foot hump is a total non-issue for me), brilliant performance on the roads, both corrugated dirt and bitumen, plenty of power for overtaking 60 meter road trains (even uphill) and reasonable fuel consumption (overall average15.3 L/100km and about 80% of the total distance was towing). 14.5 to 16.0 L/100km towing with a tailwind and 16.0 to 17.8 into a headwind or in hilly terrain. The vehicle with caravan sits in 8th gear happily at 1600rpm, handles gentle uphill slopes without a downshift and only drops into 7th (or occasionally 6th gear) on the steeper hills. I usually sat on 90 - 95km/hr into the wind and 95 – 100km/hr downwind. Fuel consumption rises rapidly above 100km/hr when towing, especially into the wind.

Only drama was a cracked windscreen on the Gibb River Rd from an errant stone from a truck going the other way. Clear packaging tape stopped the crack from spreading too far and it all held together until we got home. Carried two 20 L jerry cans of diesel in the caravan (just in case) but never needed it.

Diesel prices varied enormously ($1.93/L in Perth, up to $2.50/L along Great Northern Highway, back to $2.00/L in Port Hedland and Kununurra but very expensive in the more remote areas ($2.80/L at El Questro Station and $3.20/L at Mt Hart station). The Grenadier fuel filler is a bit of a pain, will not accept high flow filler nozzle.

This is the best and most capable long distance touring vehicle I have ever driven. It handled beach sand, rough corrugated dirt roads, flooded creek crossings, rough rocky terrain and slippery muddy tracks with ease. I engaged low gear and the central locker (plus wading mode) fairly often, but never looked like needing the rear or front axle lockers.

For those of you interested, this is my set-up as ordered:

Scottish White Trialmaster (diesel)
17” steel wheels, BFG KO2 tyres
Utility trim, heavy duty seat covers and rubber floor mats
Smooth and rough packs (includes diff lockers front & rear)
Roo-bar and siderunners (steps)
Raised air intake
Auxiliary battery, electrical prep and switch panel
Towing pack & wiring

I placed the order in July 22 and the vehicle was delivered in late November 2023. Cost approx AUD109,000 drive away, no more to pay (hah, hah!). I thought it was expensive when I placed the order, but looking at current prices for competing vehicles it now looks more than reasonable.

I have since added the following:

Stedi light bar, front mounted
ICOM IC-450 UHF
Ctek D250SE linked to the Ctek Smartpass to enable roof rack mounted solar panel charging
Additional dashboard USB charge points for phone and GPS
ARB on-board compressor
Rear compartment Anderson plug for the fridge (direct from auxiliary battery)
Rear bumper Anderson plug (from auxiliary battery) for caravan charging and running the dust suppression system in the van on the road
Redarc Tow-Pro Elite electric brake controller for towing
Low profile Rhino-Rack steel mesh roof rack (can’t get into my garage with the big Rhino Rack designed for the Grenadier)
Sphere permanent rear viewing camera system for both the car and caravan.

Next addition is the Brown-Davis long range fuel tank extension (68 litres) which incorporates a high flow diesel filling port. Will probably add Air-Bag Man pneumatics to the rear springs to account for the added fuel and tank weight (if needed).

Cheers
Wombat51
Hi! Thanks for sharing your inspiring travel! I’m new to the 4x4 travel. Truth be told, I have yet to own a 4WD vehicle. At the moment it’s a battle between Toyota GXL 76 series auto and IG. Ronny Dahl’s review of the two very different vehicles have left me more confused. My interest in pursuing 4x4 travel all started after the amazing family holiday to Dirk Hartog in Shark Bay. I currently own a AWD family car, but I’m looking to trade-in for a proper adventure SUV to explore more northern part of WA. I have a couple of questions: (1)Did you experience any issues with the electronics of IG? (2)Your review of Magic Enterprise dealership, both sales and after sales customer care. IG being a new make, I like to know if the after sales customer service is reputable.
 
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Hello Js9

No electronic issues other than the "bonging" noise when I do not shut the back doors properly. On my car, unless I slam the main back door, I get an error message about "open doors" even though I know the door is shut (I suspect the sensors are not quite aligned),

Service and customer care from Magic has been fine. I have had the vehicle serviced twice (at 7000km before my trip to Kimberleys) and a couple of weeks ago (at 21,000km, before I drive to Qld next week and return via Great Central Road in early November). Cost approx $980 each time and the few minor warranty issues/software upgrades have been dealt with expeditiously. The sales personnel (and the boss!) changed just before my car was delivered, but I already knew I wanted a Grenadier, so the salesman did not add much value (other than following up on the final purchase arrangements).

Overall, I am happy with the Magic troops (in Perth, we have no other alternative anyway), they do the best they can with the imperfect info flow from Ineos.

In terms of your decision between 70 series and IG, either would be an excellent choice with respect to offroad and adventure SUV capabilities, but I am very happy I chose the IG, primarily for the offroad capability, long range comfort (and my wife preferred the IG over the 70 series), so that saved a few arguments!

Cheers and good luck with your choice.

Regards
Wombat51
 

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Hello Js9

No electronic issues other than the "bonging" noise when I do not shut the back doors properly. On my car, unless I slam the main back door, I get an error message about "open doors" even though I know the door is shut (I suspect the sensors are not quite aligned),

Service and customer care from Magic has been fine. I have had the vehicle serviced twice (at 7000km before my trip to Kimberleys) and a couple of weeks ago (at 21,000km, before I drive to Qld next week and return via Great Central Road in early November). Cost approx $980 each time and the few minor warranty issues/software upgrades have been dealt with expeditiously. The sales personnel (and the boss!) changed just before my car was delivered, but I already knew I wanted a Grenadier, so the salesman did not add much value (other than following up on the final purchase arrangements).

Overall, I am happy with the Magic troops (in Perth, we have no other alternative anyway), they do the best they can with the imperfect info flow from Ineos.

In terms of your decision between 70 series and IG, either would be an excellent choice with respect to offroad and adventure SUV capabilities, but I am very happy I chose the IG, primarily for the offroad capability, long range comfort (and my wife preferred the IG over the 70 series), so that saved a few arguments!

Cheers and good luck with your choice.

Regards
Wombat51
Hi Wombat51,

Thank you for your reply. I have decided to book myself in for a test drive of the IG. Safe travels to your epic adventure!

Regards,
JS9
 
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