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Suspension & wheels Upgradability?

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No matter what happens, someone in the US will find a way to get 37" tires on this thing. Its a durable solid axle turbo charged v6, its unavoidable. I am willing to bet it will require less work than a Tacoma/Fj/4Runner to fit larger tires.

Also what makes this thing cool is even if Australia comes up with something first, we can order it. Not many US sold 4x4 vehicles have the option to find vendors world wide that make upgrades for them.
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Probably just a typo but both petrol and diesel are inline 6 not V6
I haven't looked into the petrol version as I am going diesel however the diesel has a twin sequential compound turbo setup that already has a lot of tuning and exhaust mods available here in Australia.
It has been massively detuned by Ineos from the standard BMW X5 numbers and tuners are getting 20% plus on those.
I don't want to go down the road f a chip but maybe a bit of a remap up to the BMW numbers and air intake & exhaust upgrade
B57D30T0235 kW (315 hp) at 4,000 rpm680 N⋅m (502 lb⋅ft) at 1,750–2,250 rpm
 

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I noticed one of the latest social media videos actually had 0-100 times in.

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I wonder if Ineos have left room in both engines for a series of later upgrades, either as just baseline increases as the models mature or a series of special editions?
 

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I noticed one of the latest social media videos actually had 0-100 times in.

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I wonder if Ineos have left room in both engines for a series of later upgrades, either as just baseline increases as the models mature or a series of special editions?
They are the numbers that have been in the brochure from the start.
The test drive in Budapest he dropped it into low range and floored it on tar and it went really quickly.
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European Car companies don't tend to do special editions any longer whereby they increase the tune/performance.
It requires too much testing and retesting for WLTP etc, just for a short run of cars.

There is plenty of headroom left though for future vehicle releases though.
 

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European Car companies don't tend to do special editions any longer whereby they increase the tune/performance.
It requires too much testing and retesting for WLTP etc, just for a short run of cars.

There is plenty of headroom left though for future vehicle releases though.
Plenty of room for some themed editions and higher luxury specs
 

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European Car companies don't tend to do special editions any longer whereby they increase the tune/performance.
It requires too much testing and retesting for WLTP etc, just for a short run of cars.
As I understand it any change, including options, that impact a vehicle’s standard weight, drag or rolling resistance can change a vehicle’s WLTP values. Additions such as a sunroof are likely to add approximately 2g/km of CO2 to a vehicle’s emissions levels and any change to a vehicle’s specification must be calculated with complete accuracy.

I guess all these things are a trade off to the time, effort and cost of producing vs the financial returns of selling them.

It may be why, or at least another factor considered, some accessories are now fitted by the agent. If it is, in part, an end run around the WLTP rules then there's the possibility that tunes/performance upgrades could be managed in a similar way.
 
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I wonder if a 255/80r17 would fit with no lift. It would be a 33inch tire with a similar width as a stock tire. Although I suppose tall skinny tires are out of style these days.
 
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I think I will stick with the standard 31.7" tyres
Yeah the more I think about it, I'll most likely keep mine stock for as long as possible. It's a capable rig as is especially for the things I'll be using it for.
 
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I am intending to put 295/70r17, (33.26") or at least 285/70r17, (32.6") on straight away as from my experience especially in sand there is a significant difference to standard 265/70r17.
On my most recent east west Simpson crossing in a V6 manual Amarok with 285/70r17 tyres, compared to my brother in laws auto Amarok with 265/70r17 with the same tyre pressures, the 285s made a significant difference.
I am hoping that the standard Ineos will accommodate 33.26".
35" is on the big side for touring in my opinion.
 
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I am intending to put 295/70r17, (33.26") or at least 285/70r17, (32.6") on straight away as from my experience especially in sand there is a significant difference to standard 265/70r17.
On my most recent east west Simpson crossing in a V6 manual Amarok with 285/70r17 tyres, compared to my brother in laws auto Amarok with 265/70r17 with the same tyre pressures, the 285s made a significant difference.
I am hoping that the standard Ineos will accommodate 33.26".
35" is on the big side for touring in my opinion.
I'm tossing up between the 295s and 285s as well. I think the 295s might just scrub at full lock after looking at it last weekend. Hopefully I can do a test fit or someone else beats me to it!
 

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Did you notice any adjustable steering stops?
 
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The other option is to run a slightly positive rim offset.
Does any one know if the 17" alloys have a different offset to the steel rims ?
 

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They are the numbers that have been in the brochure from the start.
The test drive in Budapest he dropped it into low range and floored it on tar and it went really quickly.
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The important question - how does it handle the Nürburgring? ;)
 
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