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Pannes

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Ok. I’ve been looking for the 10a under hood power supply for an hour. Two questions from a hapless new owner:

1) where the heck are the power supply wires? I’ve looked closely around, under and behind the positive battery post extension and nothing.

2) does anyone know if this (when I locate ) is prepared to support two 2.8 amp (each) small cube lights daisy chained together planning to be mounted under front bumper? Will these work discreetly by using the toggle switch on the overhead panel or will they be dependent/connected to a high beam relay ?
Thanks for the help.
 
Disregard. I found it. Was looking on the side of the rhd not the US version. ….. Thanks anyway.

Still interested in question 2 below.
 
Pannes said:
Ok. I’ve been looking for the 10a under hood power supply for an hour. Two questions from a hapless new owner:

1) where the heck are the power supply wires? I’ve looked closely around, under and behind the positive battery post extension and nothing.

2) does anyone know if this (when I locate ) is prepared to support two 2.8 amp (each) small cube lights daisy chained together planning to be mounted under front bumper? Will these work discreetly by using the toggle switch on the overhead panel or will they be dependent/connected to a high beam relay ?
Thanks for the help.
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1) Download the Rok Dr Guide, print it out and keep it in the car. It answers Question 1 and 2, plus much much more. See Figure 9, No 10.
2) It is a 10 amp circuit using the EXT1 switch (Fuse FI28). Look at Table 2 in the Rok Dr Guide. Short answer, it should. EXT1 is independent of the high beam relay.

Other helpful links:

PLACE TO START FOR NEW OWNERS
  1. Download and use the Rok Dr Guide here. Print out a copy and keep it in the car;
  2. Grenadier Accessories (huge selection) for you to buy here;
  3. Kanvas bags and products here;
  4. Information concerning Deutsch DTP plugs here;
  5. Learn more about the CTEK SMARTPASS 120S and 250SE here;
  6. Fuse and relay thread here;
  7. Suggested Grenadier or QM fuses spares kit here;
  8. Littelfuse FHZ busbars used in the Grenadier here. It also informs you where all the busbar cables go;
  9. Finding the aux power outlets in the footwells here;
  10. Table describing all the available wire ends here (more wire ends if you selected the high aux power option);
  11. Various recommended torque settings here;
  12. Tool kits for the Grenadier/QM discussed here and here;
  13. L track information here;
  14. Oil filter part numbers and third party filters here;
  15. INEOS Air filter parts numbers and cabin filter here;
  16. Filter for Diesel water separator here;
  17. Understanding the NATO plug on the Grenadier here;
  18. What do you use on bolts/screws to stop corrosion, galling and seizing here;
  19. Guide to terminal crimping here;
  20. Anderson plug pitfalls here;
  21. Outback driving tips here; and
  22. Cheap battery monitors here.
INSTALLATION (OR HOW TO) GUIDES
  1. SEAT COVERS: Canny Outdoors video fitting seat covers here;
  2. SPOT LIGHT REPLACEMENTS: Mounting Kit of Exezit Lights here and KC Hilites here;
  3. SIDE MIRRORS: Installing SUMA Performance side mirrors here;
  4. WORKLIGHTS: XHQ Work light here, with installation instructions here, STEDI Work light here and here;
  5. RETROFITTING A RED WINCH: Installation guide here;
  6. REAR ROOF SHELF: Canny Outdoors video installing KAON rear roof shelf here and a Travel Buddy oven fitted to a rear shelf here;
  7. ROCK SLIDERS (ABNTR4X4): Installation video for ABNTR4x4 Rock Sliders here, with suggested improvements for tougher environments here;
  8. ROO BAR: Installing the Roo Bar here;
  9. ROO BAR LED LIGHTBAR: Installing a 20 inch Lightforce Viper lightbar under the Roo Bar Hoop here;
  10. UHF (CB) RADIO: How to install a UHF (CB) Radio in an INEOS Grenadier without drilling any holes here;
  11. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (RIVAL): Installing Rival under-body armor here;
  12. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (CUSTOM OFFROAD) BASH PLATES: The installation thread is here;
  13. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (CUSTOM OFFROAD DIFF PROTECTORS): Installing the diff protectors and trailing arm protectors is here and the PDF here;
  14. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (ERO FLO FUEL FILTER GUARD): The installation thread is here and the PDF here;
  15. SIDE STEPS: Electric side steps installation guide here;
  16. INSTALLING AFTERMARKET SPEAKERS IN FRONT DOORS: instructions here, German language install here;
  17. INSTALLING BLACK SHEEP NUMBER PLATE HOLDER (US/AU models with OEM winches) here;
  18. INSTALLING REDARC TowPro Elite3: look here;
  19. INSTALLING THE WOLF G900 DASHCAM: Loc Nar's detailed installation guide here;
  20. B PILLAR (DISASSEMBLING): look here with detailed instructions here;
  21. INGEMAR’S GRENADIER HOW TO SERIES here and here (e.g winching, offroad modes, diffs, etc);
  22. INEOS FORUM resources here;
  23. INEOS Fitting Guides here, at least 9 guides from INEOS and Rhino Rack.
 
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Pannes said:
Ok. I’ve been looking for the 10a under hood power supply for an hour. Two questions from a hapless new owner:

1) where the heck are the power supply wires? I’ve looked closely around, under and behind the positive battery post extension and nothing.

2) does anyone know if this (when I locate ) is prepared to support two 2.8 amp (each) small cube lights daisy chained together planning to be mounted under front bumper? Will these work discreetly by using the toggle switch on the overhead panel or will they be dependent/connected to a high beam relay ?
Thanks for the help.
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Regarding your second question. Yes the outlet should support the proposed lights as total amp draw will be < 10amps. This circuit is independent of the high beam circuit,. This may not be legal for forward facing lights in your part of the world so you may need to do additional wiring so the lights can only be switched on when high beam is activated.
 
Rok_Dr said:
Regarding your second question. Yes the outlet should support the proposed lights as total amp draw will be < 10amps. This circuit is independent of the high beam circuit,. This may not be legal for forward facing lights in your part of the world so you may need to do additional wiring so the lights can only be switched on when high beam is activated.
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Thanks so much for the reply.
 
TheDocAUS said:
1) Download the Rok Dr Guide, print it out and keep it in the car. It answers Question 1 and 2, plus much much more. See Figure 9, No 10.
2) It is a 10 amp circuit using the EXT1 switch (Fuse FI28). Look at Table 2 in the Rok Dr Guide. Short answer, it should. EXT1 is independent of the high beam relay.

Other helpful links:

PLACE TO START FOR NEW OWNERS
  1. Download and use the Rok Dr Guide here. Print out a copy and keep it in the car;
  2. Grenadier Accessories (huge selection) for you to buy here;
  3. Kanvas bags and products here;
  4. Information concerning Deutsch DTP plugs here;
  5. Learn more about the CTEK SMARTPASS 120S and 250SE here;
  6. Fuse and relay thread here;
  7. Suggested Grenadier or QM fuses spares kit here;
  8. Littelfuse FHZ busbars used in the Grenadier here. It also informs you where all the busbar cables go;
  9. Finding the aux power outlets in the footwells here;
  10. Table describing all the available wire ends here (more wire ends if you selected the high aux power option);
  11. Various recommended torque settings here;
  12. Tool kits for the Grenadier/QM discussed here and here;
  13. L track information here;
  14. Oil filter part numbers and third party filters here;
  15. INEOS Air filter parts numbers and cabin filter here;
  16. Filter for Diesel water separator here;
  17. Understanding the NATO plug on the Grenadier here;
  18. What do you use on bolts/screws to stop corrosion, galling and seizing here;
  19. Guide to terminal crimping here;
  20. Anderson plug pitfalls here;
  21. Outback driving tips here; and
  22. Cheap battery monitors here.
INSTALLATION (OR HOW TO) GUIDES
  1. SEAT COVERS: Canny Outdoors video fitting seat covers here;
  2. SPOT LIGHT REPLACEMENTS: Mounting Kit of Exezit Lights here and KC Hilites here;
  3. SIDE MIRRORS: Installing SUMA Performance side mirrors here;
  4. WORKLIGHTS: XHQ Work light here, with installation instructions here, STEDI Work light here and here;
  5. RETROFITTING A RED WINCH: Installation guide here;
  6. REAR ROOF SHELF: Canny Outdoors video installing KAON rear roof shelf here and a Travel Buddy oven fitted to a rear shelf here;
  7. ROCK SLIDERS (ABNTR4X4): Installation video for ABNTR4x4 Rock Sliders here, with suggested improvements for tougher environments here;
  8. ROO BAR: Installing the Roo Bar here;
  9. ROO BAR LED LIGHTBAR: Installing a 20 inch Lightforce Viper lightbar under the Roo Bar Hoop here;
  10. UHF (CB) RADIO: How to install a UHF (CB) Radio in an INEOS Grenadier without drilling any holes here;
  11. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (RIVAL): Installing Rival under-body armor here;
  12. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (CUSTOM OFFROAD) BASH PLATES: The installation thread is here;
  13. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (CUSTOM OFFROAD DIFF PROTECTORS): Installing the diff protectors and trailing arm protectors is here and the PDF here;
  14. UNDER-BODY ARMOR (ERO FLO FUEL FILTER GUARD): The installation thread is here and the PDF here;
  15. SIDE STEPS: Electric side steps installation guide here;
  16. INSTALLING AFTERMARKET SPEAKERS IN FRONT DOORS: instructions here, German language install here;
  17. INSTALLING BLACK SHEEP NUMBER PLATE HOLDER (US/AU models with OEM winches) here;
  18. INSTALLING REDARC TowPro Elite3: look here;
  19. INSTALLING THE WOLF G900 DASHCAM: Loc Nar's detailed installation guide here;
  20. B PILLAR (DISASSEMBLING): look here with detailed instructions here;
  21. INGEMAR’S GRENADIER HOW TO SERIES here and here (e.g winching, offroad modes, diffs, etc);
  22. INEOS FORUM resources here;
  23. INEOS Fitting Guides here, at least 9 guides from INEOS and Rhino Rack.
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Excellent. Sincere thanks for the information. Very helpful
 
Pannes said:
Disregard. I found it. Was looking on the side of the rhd not the US version. ….. Thanks anyway.

Still interested in question 2 below.
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I still cannot find the 25A high load Ext5 under the bonnet, RHD version. I have one, next to the air filter, but not the other one. Anyone have a close up photo showing both, by any chance? Need to wire in my spotlights in about 4 hours before Anzac weekend trip.
Also, how hard is it to remove the headlight to tap into the high beam wire?
 
Russell said:
I still cannot find the 25A high load Ext5 under the bonnet, RHD version. I have one, next to the air filter, but not the other one. Anyone have a close up photo showing both, by any chance? Need to wire in my spotlights in about 4 hours before Anzac weekend trip.
Also, how hard is it to remove the headlight to tap into the high beam wire?
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Info in Rok Dr Guide here.

Do you have the high aux power option fitted? The IG only has two power circuits (wire ends) under the bonnet with the high power aux option fitted. EXT1 is standard and EXT5 is optional.

If fitted, the second set of wire ends (EXT5) should be close to the ones you have already found (EXT1), near the air box in a RHD car. See Figure 8 in Rok Dr Guide. In my car the two wire sets were taped together (ie EXT5 and EXT1). If you have the hi load aux power option look under the wires around the other wire ends, they can sometimes be hidden by the wiring loom. Look for the black plastic tape they use to keep them in place.
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Easy to tell if you have the optional high power aux option, you have Switches EXT2, EXT3, EXT4 and EXT5 on the overhead console.

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TheDocAUS said:
Info in Rok Dr Guide here.

Do you have the high aux power option fitted? The IG only has two power circuits (wire ends) under the bonnet with the high power aux option fitted. EXT1 is standard and EXT5 is optional.

If fitted, the second set of wire ends (EXT5) should be close to the ones you have already found (EXT1), near the air box in a RHD car. See Figure 8 in Rok Dr Guide. In my car the two wire sets were taped together (ie EXT5 and EXT1). If you have the hi load aux power option look under the wires around the other wire ends, they can sometimes be hidden by the wiring loom. Look for the black plastic tape they use to keep them in place.
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Easy to tell if you have the optional high power aux option, you have Switches EXT2, EXT3, EXT4 and EXT5 on the overhead console.

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Yes, I have the high load option. I’ll have another look. Good to know they may be taped together.
 
Russell said:
Yes, I have the high load option. I’ll have another look. Good to know they may be taped together.
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Look under or behind the wiring loom, that is where mine were. Maybe taped under it.

Easiest is to look for the shiny black tape holding the wires ends to the loom and then explore around it.

On US vehicles the wires (EXT1 and EXT5) where further apart than on my car. They are also in a different position for LHD cars. So start searching around the existing wires you have found.

Pictures from another AU Spec car can be viewed here (I think the airbox has been removed in those images): https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...uxiliary-power-point.12412953/post-1333221402

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