So you came here looking for info on the Grenadier because you are interested in buying one….

[MileHigh]

I was walking through a parking lot after getting out of my Grenadier, and I heard a guy ask the question I hear all the time, “How do you like the Grenadier? I was looking at them…”.

I have a ‘30 sec elevator speech’, that starts with Sir Jim, weaves through the parts list, and ends with my “It’s my middle finger to the 21st century”.

The conversation always goes through the steering ‘issue’ (radius and feel are non-issues) and other bits and specs while ending with the fact that it isn’t G-wagon money (surprises many). Lots of videos and posts about all that.

But I didn’t follow that path with this guy. I just told him that I wanted it, and with my wife next to me I gave her credit for realizing that it’s better to just give in. You only live once.

Is it the most ‘rational’ purchase I’ve made- not even close- but I’ve made a lot of right decisions in my life so that I’m in a position to take a flier.
It is built for off-road adventure. It isn’t the vehicle that you rock-crawl and have an adventure in- it is the vehicle that gets you TOO the adventure.
Sure it is an unknown, but the only real alternative would be a rehabbed ECR 25+ yr old Defender 110- now that is pushing the edge of ‘rational’, especially for a single car driver.
The IG is a beast. Maybe not as ‘jack-able’ as jeep, but it is kind of the definition of ‘over engineered’. I don’t know what a ‘double-Cardon’ joint is, but I know it’s only also on a Unimog- which I kind of understand. Don’t F with it…
I am utterly amazed with the dealer, Red Noland (Colorado Springs). From the pre-buying, the transaction to the classes they have on how to off-road with Thom for the IG, to the personal check-ins from my sales person Rick Dymek. This is how a vehicle should be sold and supported.
And there are a myriad of other reasons and parts to explain why the IG is what it is.

And that is what the issue comes down to- whether or not you want it or not. It’s only money. Sure there is risk, but there is also the opportunity. Money may not buy happiness, but it sure can buy an IG that puts a smile on your face everytime you get behind the wheel and try to think of the extra errand to run, the long way home, and the next time I get it above 10,000 feet on a dirt trail going somewhere…

Do it.

 

[DaveB]

I was walking through a parking lot after getting out of my Grenadier, and I heard a guy ask the question I hear all the time, “How do you like the Grenadier? I was looking at them…”.

I have a ‘30 sec elevator speech’, that starts with Sir Jim, weaves through the parts list, and ends with my “It’s my middle finger to the 21st century”.

The conversation always goes through the steering ‘issue’ (radius and feel are non-issues) and other bits and specs while ending with the fact that it isn’t G-wagon money (surprises many). Lots of videos and posts about all that.

But I didn’t follow that path with this guy. I just told him that I wanted it, and with my wife next to me I gave her credit for realizing that it’s better to just give in. You only live once.

Is it the most ‘rational’ purchase I’ve made- not even close- but I’ve made a lot of right decisions in my life so that I’m in a position to take a flier.
It is built for off-road adventure. It isn’t the vehicle that you rock-crawl and have an adventure in- it is the vehicle that gets you TOO the adventure.
Sure it is an unknown, but the only real alternative would be a rehabbed ECR 25+ yr old Defender 110- now that is pushing the edge of ‘rational’, especially for a single car driver.
The IG is a beast. Maybe not as ‘jack-able’ as jeep, but it is kind of the definition of ‘over engineered’. I don’t know what a ‘double-Cardon’ joint is, but I know it’s only also on a Unimog- which I kind of understand. Don’t F with it…
I am utterly amazed with the dealer, Red Noland (Colorado Springs). From the pre-buying, the transaction to the classes they have on how to off-road with Thom for the IG, to the personal check-ins from my sales person Rick Dymek. This is how a vehicle should be sold and supported.
And there are a myriad of other reasons and parts to explain why the IG is what it is.

And that is what the issue comes down to- whether or not you want it or not. It’s only money. Sure there is risk, but there is also the opportunity. Money may not buy happiness, but it sure can buy an IG that puts a smile on your face everytime you get behind the wheel and try to think of the extra errand to run, the long way home, and the next time I get it above 10,000 feet on a dirt trail going somewhere…

Do it.

I disagree with you.
Mine doesn't put a smile on my face when I get in.

I smile when I am walking up to it

 

[landmannnn]

I disagree too.
A rational decision is one taken by reason or logic.
The reason I bought a Grenadier was because I wanted one. That seems logical to me.

 

[DaveB]

I disagree too.
A rational decision is one taken by reason or logic.
The reason I bought a Grenadier was because I wanted one. That seems logical to me.

I sure as hell didn't use any rational logic when I married my wife.....I just wanted to.
Similar logic when I ordered my Grenadier

Luckily both have turned out to have been pretty good choices..............despite the quirks and occasional problems.

 

[Max]

I sure as hell didn't use any rational logic when I married my wife.....I just wanted to.
Similar logic when I ordered my Grenadier

Luckily both have turned out to have been pretty good choices..............despite the quirks and occasional problems.

Watching the Grenadier evolve was my engagement with this beastie for five years. I decided to test it and it worked as good as I had read about. Next minute I am being given the key rings...marriage at first sight

 

[bemax]

In German I know this as the „Professor Willich Effekt“ (Professor IWant effect)

 

[Max]

In German I know this as the „Professor Willich Effekt“ (Professor IWant effect)

I understand but if it didn't perform, it would have been a sad day. I was able to have two runs in the Grenadier and the second was behind the wheel in offroad mode...Sold

 

[Tomdoc]

This is the most uplifting thread/comment on here for many a long month. I endorse this message. Life is too short for naysayers and doom mongers. Long live those who take the initiative and trust their gut.

 

[Jeremy996]

I'm very nearly 30,000 miles into my Grenadier journey; I wanted a modern replacement for my 1989 LR110 CSW, which was getting very needy again. I had seen the Ineos story and the Mark Evans videos and put a deposit down at the first opportunity.

It's been really good so far - the only fly in the ointment is the missing manual!

(My wife has been really tolerant; she got to loath the LR, before the rebuild it used to drip on her, after the rebuild she had to push too often, the most memorable being on the Eurotunnel, having to push-start it on the level in the train).

 

[Will I like it? - Yep!]

I ran out of vehicles to buy - new Defender lasted 6 months, was lovely but was really a Range Rover in a new dress and was going to bite me on the arse outside warranty as it was overly complex and had weird software issues and the support has a poor reputation.
I fancied something different and 13k miles on I still love it - it was a punt buying it but it’s worked out well.
Ordered without the aid of a spread sheet of pro’s and con’s
Order yours now as we are all dead a long time

 

[DaveB]

I ran out of vehicles to buy - new Defender lasted 6 months, was lovely but was really a Range Rover in a new dress and was going to bite me on the arse outside warranty as it was overly complex and had weird software issues and the support has a poor reputation.
I fancied something different and 13k miles on I still love it - it was a punt buying it but it’s worked out well.
Ordered without the aid of a spread sheet of pro’s and con’s
Order yours now as we are all dead a long time

I am thinking of changing to belief in reincarnation so I wont be dead for long.

 

[landmannnn]

I am thinking of changing to belief in reincarnation so I wont be dead for long.

Don't tell the wife.

 

[DaveB]

Don't tell the wife.

We have an agreement that when I die she will put me in the wheelie bin for garbage collection.

But not the one with the yellow lid as that is for stuff being recycled.

 

[WJG-GMT II]

I'm very nearly 30,000 miles into my Grenadier journey; I wanted a modern replacement for my 1989 LR110 CSW, which was getting very needy again. I had seen the Ineos story and the Mark Evans videos and put a deposit down at the first opportunity.

It's been really good so far - the only fly in the ointment is the missing manual!

(My wife has been really tolerant; she got to loath the LR, before the rebuild it used to drip on her, after the rebuild she had to push too often, the most memorable being on the Eurotunnel, having to push-start it on the level in the train).

Any issues with the ac? I seem to recall some had complaints and if your in a warm climate-that’s a big concern

 

[WJG-GMT II]

We have an agreement that when I die she will put me in the wheelie bin for garbage collection.

But not the one with the yellow lid as that is for stuff being recycled.
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As a side note, none of that actually gets recycled. It all ends up in the same dump.

 

[landmannnn]

Or exported to Africa, Vietnam, Cambodia etc

 

[Rok_Dr]

Any issues with the ac? I seem to recall some had complaints and if your in a warm climate-that’s a big concer

It was a scorching 41° day here today. On auto set at 21° the Aircon held its own, but engine and ac fans were running flat out.

 

[Psignore00]

I had the same elevator pitch too, then I found myself changing it to “this was the most financially irresponsible decision I’ve made, but it makes me smile every time I drive it and that’s worth it to me”

 

[Jeremy996]

Any issues with the ac? I seem to recall some had complaints and if your in a warm climate-that’s a big concern

I'm in the UK, so a warm climate is a bit of a reach!
I did have some issues but sorted by the dealer by bleeding the system, updating the software and checking all of the flaps operated.

 

[IGL]

Well, that's what happened to me...