Rock Slider Steps

[Eric]

Mine are to stop children , oldies and dogs getting in.

Am I now classified as an "oldie" ?

 

[bigleonski]

Are folks really anticipating putting their Grenadier in places where they're expecting to slide over rock ledges etc or are the rock sliders intended for their 2000kg load bearing capacity in some other way?

Yep (although I’ve gone steps here). Unfortunately if I don’t invariably I need to buy a new set of (Toyota type aluminum) steps before I sell a vehicle.

I don’t do the sort of rock hopping I used to, but I don’t let damage to steps stop me from getting somewhere I want to go so it’s a decent investment. That said I don’t expect to do anything too silly these days.

Hopefully the IG side steps are solid enough to protect the sills from most things but will obviously cop more punishment than the sliders will.

 

[Tazzieman]

Am I now classified as an "oldie" ?

I'm over 60 and a grandad. You become an oldie when the will to resist ageing wanes.

 

[Eric]

I'm over 60 and a grandad. You become an oldie when the will to resist ageing wanes.

Ah, I'm a veteran oldie, I gave up fighting ageing at 50

 

[Jean Mercier]

Mine are to stop ..., oldies ... getting in.

I think you better buy a Ferrari instead of a Grenadier then

 

[Tazzieman]

I think you better buy a Ferrari instead of a Grenadier then

Well I do have an old 911, 944 and 928
Actually I bought the 944 from a 76 yo guy with bad knees.
One day my turn will come!

 

[DCPU]

Thanks DCPU, these form Safety Devices might do the trick, not as elegant as your original ones though.

https://shop.safetydevices.com/collections/fixings/products/roof-tent-bracket-for-external-roll-cage

I think I might like them better.

With a step on top, nobody's going to see most of it.

Safety Devices always seem to be middling in terms of quality but absolutely top end on pricing.

I might look a little further into some of the other offroad fabricators in the UK and see what the other options are.

 

[Krabby]

Are folks really anticipating putting their Grenadier in places where they're expecting to slide over rock ledges etc or are the rock sliders intended for their 2000kg load bearing capacity in some other way?

Yes - 4-wheeling in the north east of America is rife with rocks; those at the NY drive event will concur.

 

[globalgregors]

Are folks really anticipating putting their Grenadier in places where they're expecting to slide over rock ledges etc or are the rock sliders intended for their 2000kg load bearing capacity in some other way?

Not sure about rock ledges. Other benefits for me are protection for the lower panels and as a jacking point for recoveries.

Had some big hits on the lower panels on the RTW - ran over a large boulder lurking in fech fech, ran out of ramp over crossing culverts, went over a washout on the steppe. The DS has underbody armor which performed as designed, and sacrificial plastic panels on the doors that can absorb a big whack and then pop off. Each time they were fine to reattach, but one of those events cost us a tyre and wheel rim, and although it’s not visible the DS’ rear valance is retained by cable ties and fencing wire.

I was concerned that with the heavier vehicle and metal panels I might not avoid damage in similar situations.

Expecting jungles on the next trip so the jacking point also seemed prudent.

 

[mrmiah]

Are folks really anticipating putting their Grenadier in places where they're expecting to slide over rock ledges etc or are the rock sliders intended for their 2000kg load bearing capacity in some other way?

Absolutely yes. Sliders have been a lifesaver on my Landcruiser 200. Western US has many areas where large ledges and boulders are part of the journey. Stock tire size on the Grenadier makes sliders even more important imo.

 

[Maxwell]

Well, if they are rock sliders that slide over rocks, that part will make you hang tight and not slip.

What about welding a plate onto the top of the rocksliders?

 

[DCPU]

What about welding a plate onto the top of the rocksliders?

Yes that would work but certainly more intrusive and involve grinding/wire wheeling/flappy disking the nice surface coating off.

I'm looking for a fully reversible solution that can be added then taken off if circumstances demand.

 

[ADVAW8S]

@DCPU got you a solution. It even has anti skid for muddy access

 

[Shaky]

@DCPU got you a solution. It even has anti skid for muddy access

Transferable from vehicle to vehicle as well

 

[pioneerofthenile]

isn't there an aftermarket combo rock slider/step that comes down when you open the door and retracts back up when you close it?

 

[Tazzieman]

@DCPU got you a solution. It even has anti skid for muddy access

Attach a bungee cord and it springs back to the roof after use!

 

[ADVAW8S]

Attach a bungee cord and it springs back to the roof after use!

Real men of genius between you and me. We could market this as automatic step for grenadier

 

[Tazzieman]

Real men of genius between you and me. We could market this as automatic step for grenadier

We must add the pull down cord because some people are too short to reach the roof.
They need a step or something.
Wait....

 

[AnD3rew]

isn't there an aftermarket combo rock slider/step that comes down when you open the door and retracts back up when you close it?

Would never put one on a real offroader, they really are not strong enough to be sliders and just another electrical thing to go wrong.

 

[DaBull]

isn't there an aftermarket combo rock slider/step that comes down when you open the door and retracts back up when you close it?

isn't there an aftermarket combo rock slider/step that comes down when you open the door and retracts back up when you close it?

Here's a company that makes Rock Sliders that have automatically deploying integrated side steps. Perhaps they will add the Grenadier to their current vehicle line up.

Rock Slider Engineering Step Sliders
https://rockslideengineering.com

Rock Slider Engineering Step Sliders YouTube Video

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6DbR5T6960


In regards to Rock Sliders with steps or attachable / detachable steps,
BlackSheep Innovations makes items for the Grenadier including rock slider that allows a high lift jack to be fitted and side steps that bolt on and off to their rock sliders.
https://shop.blacksheep-innovations.com/Rockslider-Ineos-Grenadier.html
Note: After clicking on the link, you can view the rock slider and further down the page see the bolt on steps. Looks Purpose Built.

The other company that is making items for the Grenadier including what appear to be rock sliders with steps is Urban Automotive. Here’s a video link

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS8XUgpSJks


If anyone can get ahold of either Black Sheep or Urban Automotive, here are 2 questions I would love answers to;
What is the height from the ground to the top of their step?
What is the height from the top of their step to the entry cabin sill?

For information purposes, here are the measurements from Rovie from the Forum via photos he posted under “Side Steps versus Rock Sliders” showing the Grenadier Side Steps and a tape measure.

Grenadier Side Steps
395mm or 15 ½” from the ground to the top of the side step.
215mm or 8 ¼” from the top of the side step to the lower door sill opening where you might next step or
255mm or 10” from the top of the side step to the sill at the entry cabin.

For information purposes, My 2020 110 Defender has the Land Rover side steps and they measure, (with the airbag level set at the entry lower level position),
310mm or 12 1/4” from the ground to the top of the side step and
215mm or 8 1/2” from top of the side step to the sill at the entry cabin.