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[ChasingOurTrunks]

They aren't wrong, it's just an opinion. I'd also prefer a setup closer to a street legal Mahindra Roxor in the shape of a defender. It seems pretty clear if you compare the two that the grenadier is more "technological" than it needs to be.

Sorry mgo, I don't know what you are referencing with "They aren't wrong, it's just an opinion"? It's late on a Friday so my brain might not be working on all three of my cells but I'm not sure what you mean.

As for the Gren being more technological -- More technological than it needs to be to operate? Absolutely.

More technological than it needs to be to be able to be sold all over the world? I'm less sure of this. I don't think they'd be able to sell it in Canada if it didn't have a backup camera and airbags, for example (required by law in 2018 and 2012 respectively, I think).

 

[DCPU]

I really like that color combination. May have to switch to that, from silver with a black roof. That assumes, of course, that Ineos offers the same colors in the US when it arrives here.

There's at least two there in that colour combo:

 

[rovie]

There's at least two there in that colour combo:
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After all, this is my vehicle, which I can pick up in a few weeks. (The picture above).

 

[bigleonski]

They aren't wrong, it's just an opinion. I'd also prefer a setup closer to a street legal Mahindra Roxor in the shape of a defender. It seems pretty clear if you compare the two that the grenadier is more "technological" than it needs to be.

See for me if I wanted a bullet proof solely utilitarian go anywhere with no compromises rough as guts truck I’d buy a small massey ferguson 4wd tractor.

But I don’t.

I don’t get all the comments about the vehicle having creature comforts or some modern features and therefore not being’”built on purpose“. If you want that hand your deposit back and buy an old Landy or an 60 series LC.

I also believe that if that was what Ineos delivered it would go broke real quick.

I want a real 4wd that is reliable robust and easily fixable sure. But I have to live with it everyday so I aslo want it to be comfortable and modern and pleasant to drive whether I’m heading into the city every day, driving a 1000km up to Mackay on the highway, dragging a van across central Australia, spending my week away on Fraser Island or heading into the central Aussie deserts.

I reckon the Iggy can do all that, otherwise I’d be signing up for a 300 and building it up to handle that.

 

[globalgregors]

They aren't wrong, it's just an opinion. I'd also prefer a setup closer to a street legal Mahindra Roxor in the shape of a defender. It seems pretty clear if you compare the two that the grenadier is more "technological" than it needs to be.

I’m presuming you’re joking. On the remote chance that you aren’t… UAZ Hunter.
Which is of course the Russian analog of a Land Rover Series, still in manufacture and of course also available as a forward control - the Classic/‘Bukhanka’.
History on wheels, not for the autobahn.

 

[PanoramaJJ]

After all, this is my vehicle, which I can pick up in a few weeks. (The picture above).

Slowly I am beginning to ask myself, why I didn´t order the GRENADIER in "mushroom". Perhaps I thought this would be too much WHITE. But now I´ve seen several pictures and videos, and I believe that "mushroom" is a really nice color!

 

[bemax]

Slowly I am beginning to ask myself, why I didn´t order the GRENADIER in "mushroom". Perhaps I thought this would be too much WHITE. But now I´ve seen several pictures and videos, and I believe that "mushroom" is a really nice color!

As your contract is already signed there is just one solution. Order a second one. For sure you will find someone who takes the one you like second best and pays the Price you pay.

 

[Hannes01]

I ordered MM for my first configuration. In the meantime I have ordered 2 more things, each time thinking about a different color.
but I always stayed with MM. the first choice - from the gut - is always the best!

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Sorry mgo, I don't know what you are referencing with "They aren't wrong, it's just an opinion"? It's late on a Friday so my brain might not be working on all three of my cells but I'm not sure what you mean.

As for the Gren being more technological -- More technological than it needs to be to operate? Absolutely.

More technological than it needs to be to be able to be sold all over the world? I'm less sure of this. I don't think they'd be able to sell it in Canada if it didn't have a backup camera and airbags, for example (required by law in 2018 and 2012 respectively, I think).

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See for me if I wanted a bullet proof solely utilitarian go anywhere with no compromises rough as guts truck I’d buy a small massey ferguson 4wd tractor.

But I don’t.

I don’t get all the comments about the vehicle having creature comforts or some modern features and therefore not being’”built on purpose“. If you want that hand your deposit back and buy an old Landy or an 60 series LC.

I also believe that if that was what Ineos delivered it would go broke real quick.

I want a real 4wd that is reliable robust and easily fixable sure. But I have to live with it everyday so I aslo want it to be comfortable and modern and pleasant to drive whether I’m heading into the city every day, driving a 1000km up to Mackay on the highway, dragging a van across central Australia, spending my week away on Fraser Island or heading into the central Aussie deserts.

I reckon the Iggy can do all that, otherwise I’d be signing up for a 300 and building it up to handle that.

Well that would be fine if they don't price it too high. Still waiting on that here in NA. If it comes in at $70k usd, it's a wasted opportunity to have gone more utilitarian and shaved $20k off the price.

Foolish to cancel a reservation until we know a price point.

 

[jamesfielding]

If I look at the image, the wading debt is way below the fender, there is only one "wave" that seems to go over the fender. The wading debt is 80 cm, that's about the diameter of the tires. I would think they took into account "waves" of water going a little bit higher.

Probably a stupid question so please be kind, but when they state the wading depth, is that the level at which you could safely stop in that water level? So “park” in 80cm of water?

 

[Tazzieman]

Probably a stupid question so please be kind, but when they state the wading depth, is that the level at which you could safely stop in that water level? So “park” in 80cm of water?

I would have thought so. If you saw a drop off , or a croc approaching , you would need to stop, engage reverse and limp home safely.

 

[DenisM]

Probably a stupid question so please be kind, but when they state the wading depth, is that the level at which you could safely stop in that water level? So “park” in 80cm of water?

I presumed it was the highest safe level for water, probably measured just below the bottom edge of the air intake on the (driver's) side mudguard of the Grenadier. whether you'd stop and park (and fish out the window....) I'm not sure. The 80cm level is well above the lower door seal. Some door seals are ok while moving, but once you stop, the pressure is such that the water finds its way in... but it does have drain holes!!

 

[MrMike]

Probably a stupid question so please be kind, but when they state the wading depth, is that the level at which you could safely stop in that water level? So “park” in 80cm of water?

I probably wouldn't "park" in 800mm of water, but fording or similar would be fine, I think the door seals would eventually leak

 

[ECrider]

I want to see one winching itself up a dam. That advert/commercial alone sold me on the series3? Or was it the “new defender” when I was a kid.

nice one, that takes me back.....Mexico '86 etc!

 

[jamesfielding]

I’ve just seen this on Facebook

 

[MrMike]

I’ve just seen this on Facebook

online version available?

 

[jamesfielding]

online version available?

I’ll be honest I don’t have that subscription but I would assume so. Others on Facebook says the embargo ends this weekend

 

[jamesfielding]

Not sure the order but here you go

 

[tartan shepherd]

In Summary TG dislikes:

Wipers not covering enough of screen
Offset pedals and intrusion into footwell
Limited rear visibility
Problems on two vehicles with diff solenoids engaging
They score it 7/10

 

[OGrid]

I’ve just seen this on Facebook

Odd, the online Feb 2023 version doesn’t have the article that I can see.