Rescue Data Sheets

[Barney]

In Germany it is common for the fire brigade and rescue services to have access to so-called "rescue data sheets". The largest German automobile club ADAC also has them for download. See photo e.g. Defender. It is not yet available for the Grenadier. Is there inside information?

 

[MACS]

I did already open a ticket with IA. Will post once I receive any feedback.

 

[DCPU]

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/are-there-side-curtain-airbags-for-the-rear-passenger-seats-or-only-the-front-seats.12411234/post-1333155330

 

[bemax]

In Germany it is common for the fire brigade and rescue services to have access to so-called "rescue data sheets". The largest German automobile club ADAC also has them for download. See photo e.g. Defender. It is not yet available for the Grenadier. Is there inside information?View attachment 7817072

In the fair 112Rescue I attended last week I talked with some guys from the company moditec (https://www.moditech.com).
They took a load of pictures from my Grenadier for the crash recovery software they develope. They now also have a contact to get the relevant data from Ineos to mark the airbag explosives, stronger parts of the chassis and battery outlets.

 

[Barney]

@bmax I knew you're on the subject. @DCPU I hadn't seen this thread before. I didn't find anything when I searched for rescue. Thanks. @muxmax thanks too. INEOS should take care of that now….

 

[Tinki]

There is an app called euro rescue , that is the most liley place you will find it first . Had a look a few days ago not on there yet .

Launch of “Euro Rescue”: Free Downloadable Rescue Information for First Responders | Euro NCAP

A mobile application for first responders dealing with traffic accidents. Potential hazards like the location of airbags, … are shown in the rescue sheets downloadable in the app.

www.euroncap.com

 

[DCPU]

The Rescue Sheets website states:

"This information must be provided throughout Europe. To be readily accessible by rescuers, the rescue sheet must be placed behind the driver's sun visor of each car."

Rescue sheet on board - helping the rescuers - Rescue sheet

Rescue sheet - helping the rescuers - Rescue Sheet

www.rescuesheet.info

@bemax do you know ~ is this a legal requirement?

 

[MACS]

I did already open a ticket with IA. Will post once I receive any feedback.

OK, here is what came in from IA: (translated from German to English)
"Dear Mr. [blanked] ,
Thank you for your enquiry to INEOS Automotive. It will be released soon, unfortunately we are still working on it.
I hope you are just as excited to see the Grenadier."

I am not sure is that textblock no. 521 from INEOS?

 

[Barney]

Has anyone heard anything new about the rescue cards? Is there a link for a download ?

 

[DCPU]

@bemax seems to be closer to the action than anyone else?

 

[bemax]

@bemax seems to be closer to the action than anyone else?

I just sent a mail to moditech, to hear whether they have the data from the rescue data sheet for their software yet.

 

[bemax]

I just got the first answer from Moditech. Right now there is no rescue data sheet available for the Grenadier. They check back in the office if and when it will be available in their crash recovery software. I will keep you informed.

 

[Barney]

Still no information! Which firefighter knows where the batteries are in the Ineos Grenadier and which one is the starter battery? I don't want to be stuck in the Ineos in the event of a fire or trapped and the medical staff have no information because Ineos hasn't gotten it together yet. @MrMike how is it in Australia? I don't want to experience an accident like @TheDocAUS and the rescue team has no information about the car

 

[TheDocAUS]

In my accident that information would not have helped. Assume the car was a Grenadier instead, then all 4 doors were jammed tight, so the battery box was not accessible to cut the cables. But that will not always be the case.

The idea of having a cheat sheet is a good one. Basic information for Fire and Rescue, with a warning about the high current circuits to the winch and the rear NATO socket.

 

[MrMike]

Still no information! Which firefighter knows where the batteries are in the Ineos Grenadier and which one is the starter battery? I don't want to be stuck in the Ineos in the event of a fire or trapped and the medical staff have no information because Ineos hasn't gotten it together yet. @MrMike how is it in Australia? I don't want to experience an accident like @TheDocAUS and the rescue team has no information about the car

We disconnect all power, so if there are 2 batteries we do both (all earth leads) we also have an online guide, app and book for the location of all power and safety systems for vehicles. If we can't find it we keep looking. This has become more crucial since the rise of EVs.

 

[Clark Kent]

We disconnect all power, so if there are 2 batteries we do both (all earth leads) we also have an online guide, app and book for the location of all power and safety systems for vehicles. If we can't find it we keep looking. This has become more crucial since the rise of EVs.

Hi @MrMike. Is the sharing of hazard and rescue data with emergency responders the manufacturer's responsibility as part of certification of a new vehicle in Australia or is this info collated by the various Federal, State and Territory Emergency Services?
I'm in defence aviation on the industry side and we spend a fair amount of time doing initial and refresher crash rescue training for firefighters and ambulance. Where to cut, not to cut, battery locations, fuel cutoff, crew egress, etc.

 

[MrMike]

Hi @MrMike. Is the sharing of hazard and rescue data with emergency responders the manufacturer's responsibility as part of certification of a new vehicle in Australia or is this info collated by the various Federal, State and Territory Emergency Services?
I'm in defence aviation on the industry side and we spend a fair amount of time doing initial and refresher crash rescue training for firefighters and ambulance. Where to cut, not to cut, battery locations, fuel cutoff, crew egress, etc.

That's a very good question, I'm unsure who is responsible for sharing the information, much comes from ANCAP
We do much of the research into EVs ourselves as the speed of these being produced has out paced our formal training, likewise with new vehicles.

 

[Ovrland Bill]

 

[Ovrland Bill]

Photo of burned out Grenadier (above) is from the Ineos Grenadier Australia Facebook Group.

 

[MrMike]

Photo of burned out Grenadier (above) is from the Ineos Grenadier Australia Facebook Group.

It's been posted already @Ovrland Bill under Stockton Beach Fire