Replacement Hinges

[AnD3rew]

Looks like a solution looking for a problem

 

[Bruce]

There's no shortage of pictures from the factory showing painted chassis with no doors. At least on the vehicle side the area under the hinge should be painted. Doubt it's unpainted under the door side given the gasket isn't painted over in the pic posted above.

 

[DaveB]

I thought the hinges were strongly bonded to the doors and bolts more for show. As people were worried of the defender scenario just removing doors.

That is correct

 

[Ovrland Bill]

Best way to counter the 'trick' and remove 'doubt' is to effectively disprove it ....

I don't have a Gren, but if I did, i'd be dismantling, greasing and isolating potential bi-metalic rust traps.
I'd also be under it with a Lanoguard lance and spray gun

Even if I lack the “Best way to counter the “trick”, the burden of proof should still lie with the ‘accuser‘ (erstwhile vendor).

 

[DCPU]

I can see the gasket on this pic.

From that photo there appears to be two?

 

[DCPU]

So we started off with the vendor stating:

When queried, the answer was:

And now, we've ended up with:

 

[DCPU]

The question is ready to be asked. I tried calling one of the guys in Germany this morning. As soon as I have a response, I will post.

Just bumping this, are Ineos staff under a complete embargo to talking to anyone outside the company?

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Right, this took a little longer that anticipated and I appreciate your patience.

I have managed to get an answer directly from source that addresses the issue ... and it is convincing.

In a nutshell, INEOS have indeed spent a lot of time getting materials and processes correct to ensure the factory fitted hinges are durable and long-lasting.

Development testing has been so stringent that INEOS have set a new industry benchmark for hinges in the off-road sector.

"Having checked this with the engineering team, it’s clear that the above statement and concerns regarding the quality of INEOS Grenadier hinges is entirely unfounded.

The Grenadier crash test certified hinge has been tested over 100,000 cycles under forced climatic conditions ranging between -40°C and +90°C."

With the information now in front of me in regard to materials, manufacturing processes, and durability, I can confidently say the factory mounted hinges are unlikely to cause any issues now or in the future.
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The full content of my corresponding post can be read here: https://overland-europe.com/ineos-grenadier-hinges-that-will-last-a-lifetime-probably/

 

[Tazzieman]

Well I'm glad that's sorted . The hinge emperor has no clothes.

 

[rovie]

Right, this took a little longer that anticipated and I appreciate your patience.

I have managed to get an answer directly from source that addresses the issue ... and it is convincing.

In a nutshell, INEOS have indeed spent a lot of time getting materials and processes correct to ensure the factory fitted hinges are durable and long-lasting.

Development testing has been so stringent that INEOS have set a new industry benchmark for hinges in the off-road sector.

"Having checked this with the engineering team, it’s clear that the above statement and concerns regarding the quality of INEOS Grenadier hinges is entirely unfounded.

The Grenadier crash test certified hinge has been tested over 100,000 cycles under forced climatic conditions ranging between -40°C and +90°C."

With the information now in front of me in regard to materials, manufacturing processes, and durability, I can confidently say the factory mounted hinges are unlikely to cause any issues now or in the future.
_____
The full content of my corresponding post can be read here: https://overland-europe.com/ineos-grenadier-hinges-that-will-last-a-lifetime-probably/

Anything else would have surprised me a lot. But of course, everyone tries to get a piece of the pie. Even if it's with absolutely unnecessary things. The stainless steel screws and hinges for the Defender were also rubbish.

 

[DCPU]

And the hinges fitted:

 

[YellowLab]

Oldest trick in the advertising book.
Create doubt (maybe a bit of fake news)
Stoke fear
Prise open the wallet...

Waiting for the post where someone mentioned the vehicle is actually made of wood and rust could be an issue. Wonder how INEOS will address their using piano wire for seatbelts....

 

[Tazzieman]

Waiting for the post where someone mentioned the vehicle is actually made of wood and rust could be an issue. Wonder how INEOS will address their using piano wire for seatbelts....

Horsehair seat stuffing , very old school - but environmentally sensible. There are far too many horses on the planet , mostly doing nothing - just like begpackers.

 

[YellowLab]

Horsehair seat stuffing , very old school - but environmentally sensible. There are far too many horses on the planet , mostly doing nothing - just like begpackers.

Exactly - they also failed to disclose that the hinge lubrication is the oil from baby seals the INEOS sends a team to club everyday and render....

 

[Tazzieman]

Exactly - they also failed to disclose that the hinge lubrication is the oil from baby seals the INEOS sends a team to club everyday and render....

Nanook will be outraged to hear this

 

[Miki]

He's moved, he's no longer in the North ....

 

[bigleonski]

And the hinges fitted:
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I really have to ask mate, why?

 

[DaveB]

Well that seems well engineered

No way
Those hinges will rust out while you are having coffee at the mall.

 

[DCPU]

I really have to ask mate, why?

Aftermarket seller has a mortgage and kids to feed? I really don't know...

 

[DenisM]

Well I'm glad that's sorted . The hinge emperor has no clothes.

indeed....they've been reduced to all these threads.