Replacement Hinges

[Phileas Fogg]

Whilst preparing some previews for the forthcoming Abenteuer & Allrad Show (June 8th -11th 2023), I was sent some information about replacement hinges for the Grenadier.

According to the Offroad Monkeys, the factory installed hinges are mounted to the doors with a piece of paper separating the bare surfaces - this could be a potential problem further down the track.

You can read the preview here.

 

[DCPU]

According to the Offroad Monkeys, the factory installed hinges are mounted to the doors with a piece of paper separating the bare surfaces - this could be a potential problem further down the track.

Have you played your "press card" and asked Ineos to respond to this?

“The factory hinges are assembled, uncoated, onto a bare steel door. Ineos only separate the two surfaces with a thin paper seal. In the long run, this will enduce massive rust problems. In a worst case scenario, this could even lead to door replacement.”

Is that "bare steel" door actually aluminium?

 

[Cheshire cat]

Is it actually paper that ineos use or some form of membrane?

 

[Cheshire cat]

Whilst preparing some previews for the forthcoming Abenteuer & Allrad Show (June 8th -11th 2023), I was sent some information about replacement hinges for the Grenadier.

According to the Offroad Monkeys, the factory installed hinges are mounted to the doors with a piece of paper separating the bare surfaces - this could be a potential problem further down the track.

You can read the preview here.

Great to see the start of the aftermarket accessories.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Have you played your "press card" and asked Ineos to respond to this?

“The factory hinges are assembled, uncoated, onto a bare steel door. Ineos only separate the two surfaces with a thin paper seal. In the long run, this will enduce massive rust problems. In a worst case scenario, this could even lead to door replacement.”

Is that "bare steel" door actually aluminium?

The question is ready to be asked. I tried calling one of the guys in Germany this morning. As soon as I have a response, I will post.

 

[Logsplitter]

I thought all openings were aluminium and maybe front wings also

 

[YIPPE]

I thought the hinges were strongly bonded to the doors and bolts more for show. As people were worried of the defender scenario just removing doors.

 

[Fab]

Has any one got a magnet?

 

[YIPPE]

Has any one got a magnet?

Doors are ally skinned from memory

 

[Fab]

Maybe I’m just lucky but, I haven't had any problems with my hinges on my 110 since 1985.
I like aftermarket accessories too, if they’re useful, like 22” rims to make the Grenadier look like a Mercedes G(ay)

p.s. That’s how it is pronounced properly in German.

 

[Tazzieman]

Oldest trick in the advertising book.
Create doubt (maybe a bit of fake news)
Stoke fear
Prise open the wallet...

 

[Miki]

Best way to counter the 'trick' and remove 'doubt' is to effectively disprove it ....

I don't have a Gren, but if I did, i'd be dismantling, greasing and isolating potential bi-metalic rust traps.
I'd also be under it with a Lanoguard lance and spray gun

 

[DenisM]

It's reported elsewhere on this forum that the hinges are actually bolted to the doors on the inside. The exterior hinges are "for show".
Methinks there's mischief afoot!

 

[DCPU]

Has any one got a magnet?

Calling my trusty Ullman Devices...

This is the front passenger door (RHD) which was not magnetic (excluding fasteners & locking mechanism).
The top section of the hinge including the rectangular panel is not magnetic - the 2 Torx fasteners are magnetic:

The bottom section of the hinge is magnetic:

As is the substantial mounting block attached to the bulkhead within the door shut:

The bulkhead is magnetic:

 

[Tazzieman]

Well that seems well engineered

 

[Fab]

Thanx DCPU, thats money saved for my 24" rims.

 

[DaBull]

Lots of dissimilar metals in the Grenadier, mostly steel and aluminum panels, screws, bolts and fittings. If you live in a marine environment or near the coast, there is a higher likelihood of galvanic corrosion setting in and causing damage over a long time period and causing screws and bolts to become frozen and seized. The best product in the world to prevent or minimize this is called Ultra Tef-Gel. It is used in the marine industry extensively and actually isolates different metals from each other with just a thin even coat. It’s expensive, however a little goes a long way. Available directly from Ultra Tef-Gel or on Amazon. I live at the beach and used it on all of my screws and bolts that hold my 2020 Defender factory Thule roof rack together so that I would be able to easy remove it from my vehicle or replace any cross rails and parts if needed. Without it, all the bolts would have seized already in the salt air. When using it, just apply a thin even coat. Be careful to not over torque as anytime you use a lubricant on a fitting it can change the torque settings. Because of this I don’t recommend lubricants on wheel studs or nuts because it changes the torque settings and grip and you can snap a stud. If there are in fact paper shims between the door panels and hinges, which would attract water and corrosion, perhaps inserting a very thin EDPM rubber sheet between them would isolate the steel and aluminum and not attract water like a paper shim might. If anyone removes a door or door hinge from their Grenadier and finds paper shims, let us all know. DaBull

 

[Cheshire cat]

I can see the gasket on this pic.

 

[Miki]

Whip the hinge off and tell us it its plastic or paper and if the door is painted underneath ...

 

[Tazzieman]

I can see the gasket on this pic.

Gaskets work as intended.