Rear Seat Adjustment - moving my 5 Seater Commercial (UK) rear seat to Field/Trialmaster position.

[KellysHeros]

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

 

[DaBull]

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

Hi Kellysheros, Great details. Because of the rather upright rear seat back in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster versions, I was wondering if anyone has thought of or found a way to slant the rear seat top back 25.4mm or 1". It would make for a more comfortable seating position for rear passengers. If so, post details and thoughts. DaBull

 

[MrMike]

Hi Kellysheros, Great details. Because of the rather upright rear seat back in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster versions, I was wondering if anyone has thought of or found a way to slant the rear seat top back 25.4mm or 1". It would make for a more comfortable seating position for rear passengers. If so, post details and thoughts. DaBull

There is unfortunately no way at the moment to recline the rear seats further because of the latching points at the top of the seats.

 

[DaBull]

There is unfortunately no way at the moment to recline the rear seats further because of the latching points at the top of the seats.

Hi MrMike, Yes, those anchor points are the issue, perhaps a bracket could be made to attach at the anchor point and move it back further. DaBull

 

[Jeremy996]

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

I think the system may have stripped some of your photographs, (or I am technically challenged?)

 

[KellysHeros]

Hi Kellysheros, Great details. Because of the rather upright rear seat back in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster versions, I was wondering if anyone has thought of or found a way to slant the rear seat top back 25.4mm or 1". It would make for a more comfortable seating position for rear passengers. If so, post details and thoughts. DaBull

I'm not really familiar with the seating position in both Field and Trialmaster however, can happily report the rake of the seat back is massively improved now i've repositioned the seat.

 

[KellysHeros]

I think the system may have stripped some of your photographs, (or I am technically challenged?)

 

[KellysHeros]

Hopefully the remaining photo's have now uploaded?

 

[KellysHeros]

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

 

[KellysHeros]

Remaining photos

 

[Jeremy996]

@kellysHeros Thank you kindly. I will now try to work up the bravery to do the same. (Although I have not been put under pressure yet by the occasional rear seat passenger, who is still revelling in it not being a 1989 LR110CSW and he can charge his phone!)

 

[Rab]

This was the first mod I carried out. The centre line bolts were quite tight and threadlocked so I used a breaker bar to loosen them and then zipped everything out with impact wrench. The load area mat needs trimmed as the seats have moved back so I used the trimmed part to fill in the side floor areas exposed by the move. See pic 25 of kellysheros above

 

[SBA]

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

Looks like you made a good job I have the commercial as well how much extra did it give you

 

[KellysHeros]

Looks like you made a good job I have the commercial as well how much extra did it give you

I've not measured, but simply contented the regular occupants were more than happy
That said, i would suggest 3"

Cheers

 

[MrMike]

Looks like you made a good job I have the commercial as well how much extra did it give you

90mm extra from the measurements I've seen.

 

[Woodstove]

Hi Kelly
Appreciate your helpful pictures and text regarding moving the seat back. What about the dog guard - does that need a special bracket making? My Gren has just arrived at the dealership, and comes with the guard that is about a foot tall.
Thanks

 

[KellysHeros]

Hi Kelly
Appreciate your helpful pictures and text regarding moving the seat back. What about the dog guard - does that need a special bracket making? My Gren has just arrived at the dealership, and comes with the guard that is about a foot tall.
Thanks

Hi, In short, to refit the dog guard you will need to make up some more brackets as the original ones wont work
Enjoy taking delivery

 

[DaBull]

The rear seat backs in the Grenadier are rather upright. I was hoping someone would come up with an easy solution to allow them
to slant back a bit farther at the top. I was searching Ebay last night and came across these aftermarket brackets that look
very well made. It looks like installation if fairly easy too. Once installed they allow the seat backs to slant 2" or 50mm further back
which should make the back seats much more comfortable for passengers or should you end up in the back seat one day.
I ordered a pair of the brackets and once I get my Grenadier in April I will install them.
Please see the link to the product below. You can also simply type in the search bar in Ebay
Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Fits Ineos Grenadier
to find others offering the same brackets. DaBull

Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Passend Für Ineos Grenadier 2020-2024 | eBay

Fit For Ineos Grenadier 2022-2024. Am 11.12.2023 hat der Verkäufer die folgenden Angaben hinzugefügt The original second row seats are too vertical. Our product can adjust the angle of the second row seats.

www.ebay.com

 

[Cheshire cat]

The rear seat backs in the Grenadier are rather upright. I was hoping someone would come up with an easy solution to allow them
to slant back a bit farther at the top. I was searching Ebay last night and came across these aftermarket brackets that look
very well made. It looks like installation if fairly easy too. Once installed they allow the seat backs to slant 2" or 50mm further back
which should make the back seats much more comfortable for passengers or should you end up in the back seat one day.
I ordered a pair of the brackets and once I get my Grenadier in April I will install them.
Please see the link to the product below. You can also simply type in the search bar in Ebay
Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Fits Ineos Grenadier
to find others offering the same brackets. DaBull

Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Passend Für Ineos Grenadier 2020-2024 | eBay

Fit For Ineos Grenadier 2022-2024. Am 11.12.2023 hat der Verkäufer die folgenden Angaben hinzugefügt The original second row seats are too vertical. Our product can adjust the angle of the second row seats.

www.ebay.com

When I adjusted my seats, I didn’t require any additional brackets. I followed advice as found on here and on FB. To properly attach the rear gaurd that came with my vehicle I do need brackets as fitted to the Trialmaster. I have a work a round as found on here but would like the original brackets.

 

[bemax]

The rear seat backs in the Grenadier are rather upright. I was hoping someone would come up with an easy solution to allow them
to slant back a bit farther at the top. I was searching Ebay last night and came across these aftermarket brackets that look
very well made. It looks like installation if fairly easy too. Once installed they allow the seat backs to slant 2" or 50mm further back
which should make the back seats much more comfortable for passengers or should you end up in the back seat one day.
I ordered a pair of the brackets and once I get my Grenadier in April I will install them.
Please see the link to the product below. You can also simply type in the search bar in Ebay
Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Fits Ineos Grenadier
to find others offering the same brackets. DaBull

Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Passend Für Ineos Grenadier 2020-2024 | eBay

Fit For Ineos Grenadier 2022-2024. Am 11.12.2023 hat der Verkäufer die folgenden Angaben hinzugefügt The original second row seats are too vertical. Our product can adjust the angle of the second row seats.

www.ebay.com

I don’t need the bracket but I took a look at the stuff available for the Grenadier at eBay by now. Some stuff seems usable
A big improvement since the last time I had a look there!