Power steering loss

[nickelnoff]

I am having a loss of power steering whilst off-roading at 1700m with 15+ switchbacks needed for descent.

Any advice?

Bardonechia area NW Italy

 

[Lollo050968]

Wow not only pump changed, full Grenadier?

 

[Logsplitter]

Just to wrap this one up. Been back on the road since yesterday. Ineos + Hedin came through with and provided the necessary support including a replacement Grenadier delivered to us.

Brilliant. I’m glad they sorted you out. That gives me confidence with Ineos. Are you able to continue your holidays or is that a lost cause.

 

[nickelnoff]

Wow not only pump changed, full Grenadier?

Replacement vehicle until diagnostics are done and fix done

 

[nickelnoff]

Yep, holiday continues... slightly long break of 4 days forced readjustment of plan but nonetheless got off-road again today.

 

[Logsplitter]

Yep, holiday continues... slightly long break of 4 days forced readjustment of plan but nonetheless got off-road again today.

Brilliant. Good on Ineos for sorting that. That gives me great confidence
A round of applause for Ineos

 

[Logsplitter]

Problems happen and things break. As they say Sh-t happens. It’s how Ineos deals with these problems is what counts. It seems Ineos and there agents are getting better at trying to sort things out and especially in this case of allowing @nickelnoff to continue his travels.
Happy travels nickelnoff

 

[EDWARDO]

My Mrs had this yesterday, she took our son for a swimming lesson on the way back it failed she was pretty shocked as she could hardly drive it back, not impressed at all with this as completely dents your confidence.

 

[DCPU]

Bad luck. Although, I'm impressed your Mrs didn't just park it up and call for help.

I don't think we know any reasons behind any of the failures?

 

[emax]

Absolutely unacceptable.

I don't think we know any reasons behind any of the failures?

Unfortunately, as far as I know, there hasn't been any feedback yet from those who had this problem.

I ask myself whether a too low hydraulic fluid level could be the cause.

 

[DCPU]

I ask myself whether a too low hydraulic fluid level could be the cause.

Don't say that

Power Steering Fluid (that German green stuff)

So, I'd commented on another thread that my power steering fluid was just below minimum, I'd been at my agent's and mentioned it whilst it was in for other things. It came back out again with no more fluid in it than it had gone it with as they didn't have any in stock - it was not what I'd...

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[emax]

Unbelievable they didn't fill up and don't have the right stuff.

Is it still below minimum? A power steering loss is not a fun experience. In particular not with a three-ton car.

 

[Logsplitter]

Bad luck. Although, I'm impressed your Mrs didn't just park it up and call for help.

I don't think we know any reasons behind any of the failures?

Well I’m told mine was a power steering pump failure. I haven’t heard what @nicklenoff failure was, but would be interesting to hear what other people say they’ve been told is the problem. Is anyone aware of who manufactures the power steering pumps. I have a friend who is a senior engineer for Honda U.K. and he finds it hard to believe my power steering pump failed unless it was the electrical side of it. Let’s see what other people are told.

 

[DCPU]

Well I’m told mine was a power steering pump failure.

Yes, I could have been clearer ~ I meant a bit more granular detail. One to understand in a bit more detail but also if the detail is available it then confirms the initial diagnosis.

 

[nickelnoff]

Well I’m told mine was a power steering pump failure. I haven’t heard what @nicklenoff failure was, but would be interesting to hear what other people say they’ve been told is the problem. Is anyone aware of who manufactures the power steering pumps. I have a friend who is a senior engineer for Honda U.K. and he finds it hard to believe my power steering pump failed unless it was the electrical side of it. Let’s see what other people are told.

As far as I know power steering failure was caused by pump failure. Should have further details later this week.

 

[Logsplitter]

As far as I know power steering failure was caused by pump failure. Should have further details later this week.

Whoever makes these pumps will be getting their knuckles wrapped I reckon. From what I’ve been told the mechanics of good power steering pumps just don’t fail it must be the electrical part of it.

 

[Hicarus]

One look at the multi plug on the wiring to these PAS pumps confirms to me that they are software controlled. I've kinda lost touch with these recent ones, but the early ones I experienced ran full time against a pressure relief valve. I'm guessing these don't.
And the comments drew me back to AnrewW's earlier post about the 'haptic' click on his steering - now that also could be a software problem (or a sensor??)

 

[EdSardar]

Problems happen and things break. As they say Sh-t happens. It’s how Ineos deals with these problems is what counts. It seems Ineos and there agents are getting better at trying to sort things out and especially in this case of allowing @nickelnoff to continue his travels.
Happy travels nickelnoff

Reassuring to say the least knowing a new car company with no track record is standing firm behind their products and providing support in any form/means possible.

 

[Tazzieman]

Whoever makes these pumps will be getting their knuckles wrapped

I reckon the orange would look nice. Or maybe the red? Not sure

 

[emax]

failure was caused by pump failure

Question is whether this happened due to a lack of hydraulic oil.

 

[fredp45069]

Whoever makes these pumps will be getting their knuckles wrapped I reckon. From what I’ve been told the mechanics of good power steering pumps just don’t fail it must be the electrical part of it.

This decal was on my pump.