Portal Axles

[globalgregors]

Would that be more down to the fact that historically the portal axles used were from Unimogs, Volvos, etc where the whole axle set has been used and they are just "low speed" axles?

That’s a perceptive question. This was in the context of a bespoke system however it may well have been a function of engineering compromises analogous to those manufacturers.
In short I don’t know. I agree with your implication that a solution could presumably be engineered to perform at high revs/shed accumulated heat etc, as that problem has clearly been solved in other geared systems.

 

[flynnsk]

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From Wikipedia:
“The rear axle with the wheel-sided countershafts corresponds to that of the VW Type 82 "Kübelwagen".”

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From the site https://dewiki.de/Lexikon/Portalachse:

“The first generation of the VW Transporter produced from 1950 to 1967 also had a portal axle with reduction gears, which was also used for other types. They provided a somewhat higher ground clearance and the reduction that was advantageous with the weak engine of the early Transporters, so that a Beetle gearbox - standard except for the differential basket with ring gear installed the other way around - could be used.[1]”

+1 to Necromancy

Just wanted to chime in and confirm as a previous VW Type 2 ('Bus'), 65 split window, the earlier gen did have the reduction box/gears.

 

[RYAustralia]

Thanks god we have an aftermarket. But don't expect this from a manufacturer.

Just announced by manufacturer yesterday.

 

[emax]

Announcements are announcements, not products.

But perhaps you have a link to the announcement?

 

[MileHigh]

Announcements are announcements, not products.

But perhaps you have a link to the announcement?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1859158490784412042

View: https://x.com/ineosgrenadier/status/1859158490784412042?s=61&t=FIxZkuHxi-EK5aVTL0iHcQ

 

[MileHigh]

This is what, probably a $20-30k option, on top of a new house with a taller garage? Throw a V8 in you are probably (if a BMW) you are looking at up to $60k over a base model. Interesting, but I’d rather just get it so that a 2 inch lift is reliable and have 35s fit. Or just buy a G-wagon.

 

[[ Adam ]]

Press testing in Iceland: https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-p...-at-every-obstacle-i-pointed-it-at-in-iceland

 

[DaveB]

Press testing in Iceland: https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-p...-at-every-obstacle-i-pointed-it-at-in-iceland

I am sure we will see some Quartermaster Diesels with portal axles in Australia before long.

 

[Tazzieman]

I am sure we will see some Quartermaster Diesels with portal axles in Australia before long.

On measly 35s
I was thinking about Climie's , but without portals it's unlikely now with all the guys who've chewed it up. And the weather.

View: https://youtu.be/8rYr87EW5Pg?feature=shared

 

[DenisM]

Announcements are announcements, not products.

But perhaps you have a link to the announcement?

See the interview with Lyn Calder in the Smoking Tire thread in the latter part of the video after they finish complaining about ADAS!

INEOS Automotive CEO says in Smoking Tire interview ADAS speed warning to be disabled in US Market

View: https://youtu.be/5VfYOdxlpos?si=e8XME3UJ54d-tOMz About the 10 minute mark into the video they discuss ADAS.

www.theineosforum.com

They're testing prototype? portal axled Grenadiers in Iceland as well as 44" tyres.., which Calder says will be available as an option. I'm too old to change a 44" tyre !

View: https://youtu.be/5VfYOdxlpos?si=R0eByRQRggR5Rpmu

 

[emax]

This is what, probably a $20-30k option, on top of a new house with a taller garage? Throw a V8 in you are probably (if a BMW) you are looking at up to $60k over a base model. Interesting, but I’d rather just get it so that a 2 inch lift is reliable and have 35s fit. Or just buy a G-wagon.

This is a LeTech Portal Axle build (offered by INEOS). On the Abenteuer & Allrad show 2024, Daniel Kriso from LeTech told me the price: 190''000 Euros.

But the car is at least included.

 

[emax]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1859158490784412042

View: https://x.com/ineosgrenadier/status/1859158490784412042?s=61&t=FIxZkuHxi-EK5aVTL0iHcQ

Thank you for the link. But in the context of aftermarket vs. manufacturer, ...

Thanks god we have an aftermarket. But don't expect this from a manufacturer.

... this thing IS an aftermarket solution. From LeTech, offered and marketed by INEOS.