Petrol/Diesel - Pass/Com mix

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

Again just some interesting information for you all whilst we wait for our vehicles. This is just me here at Chester and may not represent the entire UK or other countries but thought you may be interested in the split.

Total orders %
Commercial 47%
Passenger 53%

Total Diesel/Petrol mix
Diesel 64%
Petrol 36%

Passenger Diesel/Petrol mix
Diesel 52%
Petrol 48%

Commercial Diesel/Petrol mix
Diesel 76%
Petrol 24%

 

[ECrider]

thanks Steve, I'm surprised by the 47% of commercial orders, I was thinking more 70/30 split in favour of passenger models.

interesting.

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

I think the main thing to take is the difference in diesel/petrol split from passenger to commercial.

 

[Shaky]

That’s the figure that jumped out at me.

Passenger vehicles is almost a 50/50 split on fuel types. I still thought it would be more diesel biased than that tbh.

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

thanks Steve, I'm surprised by the 47% of commercial orders, I was thinking more 70/30 split in favour of passenger models.

interesting.

Don't forget I cover all of North Wales, so I have a lot of farmers and similar trades up here.

 

[Logsplitter]

Interesting stuff. If however the rumours that as a small volume car producer, Ineos can only sell 6000 vehicles per year into the U.K. of which only 1700 can be passenger vehicles , then I can’t see how Ineos can supply the demand for passenger vehicles. Any thoughts

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

Obviously different agents may have different figures but as harsh as it may sound you'd either have to wait or go for a commercial. Be interesting in time the difference in price on the used car market between the commercial and the passenger

 

[Logsplitter]

I can see a lot of people having to wait for their passenger vehicles in the U.K. and EU if your sales figures are anything to go by. Maybe that’s the cause of some of the hold up

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

I can see a lot of people having to wait for their passenger vehicles in the U.K. and EU if your sales figures are anything to go by. Maybe that’s the cause of some of the hold up

Hold up has nothing to do with the split, it's literally down to what INEOS have reported already.

 

[CountyV8]

Hold up has nothing to do with the split, it's literally down to what INEOS have reported already.

What do you think is holding up the release Steve is it "just" software?? or physical parts as software doesn't take that long.

 

[ECrider]

Don't forget I cover all of North Wales, so I have a lot of farmers and similar trades up here.

red diesel territory!

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

What do you think is holding up the release Steve is it "just" software?? or physical parts as software doesn't take that long.

We know there have been parts supply issues as with every manufacturer right now but hopefully we are at the end now and things should start moving very soon.

 

[Tom D]

Thanks for the info.
Can I ask, as a dealer do you have any more info tha the rest of us on the delays?

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

Thanks for the info.
Can I ask, as a dealer do you have any more info tha the rest of us on the delays?

Not really no, we obviously speak to the guys and girls as much as possible for updates but nothing of great significance that's different to what you already know.

 

[trobex]

thanks Steve, I'm surprised by the 47% of commercial orders, I was thinking more 70/30 split in favour of passenger models.

interesting.

I think this is because it's not a 'true commercial vehicle' in many markets. For example, the vast majorityu of people in Australia drive commercial diesel utes/trucks. Buying a wagon in Diesel Commercial Wagon I think anywhere simply comes down to the local market conditions and it would seem EU commercial has a higher stake of petrol (due to various EU rules) than the SA, AUS, Indian markets. Just my thoughts.

 

[globalgregors]

I think this is because it's not a 'true commercial vehicle' in many markets. For example, the vast majorityu of people in Australia drive commercial diesel utes/trucks. Buying a wagon in Diesel Commercial Wagon I think anywhere simply comes down to the local market conditions and it would seem EU commercial has a higher stake of petrol (due to various EU rules) than the SA, AUS, Indian markets. Just my thoughts.

Relaxed taxation for the self-employed plus negative gearing for professionals = lots of dual cab utes and a parliamentary majority in Canberra.

 

[DCPU]

Don't forget I cover all of North Wales, so I have a lot of farmers and similar trades up here.

Given the to and froing on VAT & BiK, do you have a split as to how many are being purchased privately as opposed to through a company/business?

 

[Halliwell Jones Chester]

Given the to and froing on VAT & BiK, do you have a split as to how many are being purchased privately as opposed to through a company/business?

I will only really see this when it comes to invoicing time.