The Grenadier Forum
Register Now for enhanced site access.
INEOS Agents, Dealers or Commercial vendors please contact admin@theineosforum.com for a commercial account.

Off road lights. How the heck do they come on. The dealer is even confused

Trialmaster

Grenadier Owner
Local time
1:46 PM
Joined
Nov 10, 2022
Messages
1,262
Reaction score
2,961
Location
North of Watford!
BTW: If you can read English, I suggest you people actually read the manual!

How can Trump MAGA when people can't read? :)
 

Ovrland Bill

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Founding Guard
Local time
5:46 AM
Joined
Sep 25, 2021
Messages
347
Reaction score
376
The AUX Lights should carry their own “Lifetime Warranty”, as they will not see much use.
 

landmannnn

Grenadier Owner
Local time
1:46 PM
Joined
Apr 9, 2024
Messages
721
Reaction score
1,148
Location
UK
In all other countries apart from the USA, you are free to use the AUX lights at any time the high beams are on.
 

SkiBum1

GG-4567
Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
7:46 AM
Joined
Nov 20, 2023
Messages
264
Reaction score
527
Location
Chicago, IL, USA
Engage Off-Road mode.
Turn on headlights.
Turn on high beams.
Turn on AUX lights.
This one of the biggest annoyances I had with my Grenadier when I first got it. It makes no sense not to have this hooked to a flip switch so we can turn it off and on anytime we want. That having been said, I will never use mine as I installed Baja design spots on the front bumper wires into the overhead switch panel.
Seriously I will probably never use those factory spots simply because of the annoyance they set up to get them turned on.
It is fine though, just another quirk about the Grenadier, still love it.
 

Asnes

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
8:46 AM
Joined
Dec 10, 2022
Messages
380
Reaction score
713
Location
Windermere, FL, USA
This one of the biggest annoyances I had with my Grenadier when I first got it. It makes no sense not to have this hooked to a flip switch so we can turn it off and on anytime we want. That having been said, I will never use mine as I installed Baja design spots on the front bumper wires into the overhead switch panel.
Seriously I will probably never use those factory spots simply because of the annoyance they set up to get them turned on.
It is fine though, just another quirk about the Grenadier, still love it.
It's the law in the US. You can send your letter of complaint to your congressman and lobby for them to change the law perhaps :) Ineos cannot import or sell you the car
without those measures in place.

I replaced mine with KC ERA 4s and wired to the overhead. Sounds like you did something similar in the end.
 

parb

Grenadier Owner
Lifetime Supporter
Local time
5:46 AM
Joined
Sep 10, 2023
Messages
1,140
Reaction score
1,739
Location
Silicon Valley, CA, USA
BTW: If you can read English, I suggest you people actually read the manual!

For the most part i think modern engineering has learned that a great hallmark of user centric design, especially for consumers, is that it does not require manuals.
case in point, I guarantee that your iphone/android is a marvel of far more complexity than the car, yet it doesn't come with any manuals. Most modern computers no longer have manuals and its been ages since software packages required written instructions to operate. Yet user interfaces in vehicles do which i find almost offensive.

As much as i like my grenadier i can't say that i think they will win any awards for user centric design in their Human Machine Interfaces. To me the double pressing of buttons, special modes with ordering of button presses only suggests that whoever was in charge had a clunky approach to design engineering.

Then again, most auto manufacturers are pretty bad in the HMI department, with the German school of user interactions being particularly large offenders (i once had to go to google to find a youtube video for how to close the sunroof on a mercedes benz that i had rented).
 
Back
Top Bottom