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Independent Event Moab Grenadier Gathering, May 1-4, 2025

I can't get my head around why it connects via WiFi when it has a bluetooth connection too.
It has always been explained to me that the amount of data it sends back and forth can't be supported over bluetooth at appropriate speeds.
 
It has always been explained to me that the amount of data it sends back and forth can't be supported over bluetooth at appropriate speeds.
That 100% correct. Android auto and apples system render the views in the phone and sends it to the display unit, that uses a decent amount of bandwidth. Bluetooth isn't enough
 
Right now we will have On-X Off-Road mapping building the route maps. These will be available at the event via QR Codes. We will run single and double trails during the three days to get them covered. We have 10 Trail leaders who will each have approximately 10 vehicles in each group. This will help speed up the trail running and reduce congestion on the trail systems. Wanted to push out this update, oh and to say we can expect a couple portal axle rigs at the event. Thanks to INEOS........ You all really need to visit the website more often.
 
I'll try to expound on what @anand wrote above. I was a trail leader for the Oktoberfest rally and will be for the May Moab rally as well.

1. We plan for 1 trail a day. I had several folks who (on one of longer my all-day trails) who were pissed they didn't have time in the afternoon to go for a hike or bike ride. Time didn't allow that day and we got back shortly before dinner. But, the scheduled, guided trails will be one per day.

We're going to have so many participants that we're having to run 15 trails, because we want to keep each group to around 10 maximum, so that we don't take up so much space on the trails and become a safety hazard for other folks or ourselves.

Each and every Grenadier will have a tech and safety inspection on registration day (the day before the trail runs begin) to determine capability (stock Fieldmaster with Bridgestones vs Trialmaster with BFGs, vs. a lift, and /or larger tires, rock sliders, winch...). Recommended trail levels will be color coded to help keep you from damaging your truck by getting into a trail you really shouldn't be attempting.

2. Having your own kit is ideal but there will be enough fellow Grenadier owners who will be willing to help, that airing up will be a non-issue.

3. There will be limited pit toilets available. Sometimes, we may just stop for a bio break if someone needs to. There will be bivy bag toilets available as a last resort. No paper or solid waste can be left, buried or not, in Moab. You have to use a bag toilet. That said, I'd be getting your wife used to the idea of using something like a portable urine bag. They sell bivy bags at the visitor's info center in the middle of town.

4. Whatever gear you have is probably fine. We're not going remote, so you'll barely use 1/4 tank of gas. Bring whatever water you plan to drink, and maybe an extra day just to be safe. You'll be traveling in a group, with radios and access to emergency services in case the need arises.

5. GMRS radios are the order of the day. We'll all get on the same channel (one channel per trail). Your trail leader or another attendee can help you get your radio on and turned to the right channel. GMRS radios are pretty much ready to go out of the package, as long as it's charged up.

6. Starlink Mini with Roam is awesome. I got one after I saw the guys at Moab Oktoberfest with one. But!!! You CANNOT CONNECT your phone to both the Grenadier and Starlink at the same time. The Grenadier uses Wifi and Bluetooth. If you have a second phone (tablet / laptop), you can use it with Starlink. But like Anand said, if you download offline maps, you'll be fine. Also, you can simply follow the Grenadier in front of you. That works, too. The Trail Leader will have the route / mapping info, and there will be a tail gunner who should be a more experienced off-road driver and their job will be to ensure that the group doesn't get spread out nor separated.

I guess my biggest advice is, don't overthink it. Plan, yes, but just come and have fun. We've taken care of the hard stuff.

-Alan
Tucson
He speaks the truth, has good taste in whiskey, and he and his wife are super nice people.
 
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