Americas Interesting quote from Lynn Calder on US spec vehicles

[Krabby]

I'm sorry, but that just calls for this

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Damn it, Janet!

 

[Fidei Defensor]

A two litre bucket of water and milk with the equivalent of two shots is of coffee in it, isn’t coffee.

Any more than an espresso is no longer coffee!

 

[CountyV8]

Any more than an espresso is no longer coffee!

Yes but espresso "is" coffee

 

[Fidei Defensor]

Yes but espresso "is" coffee

Did you mean "espresso is the only way to drink coffee"?

 

[Krabby]

Wait, is it "expresso?"

 

[IGL]

Or maybe depresso - the feeling you get when you run out of coffee beans.

 

[anand]

Wait, is it "expresso?"

That's when it is made quickly

 

[Fidei Defensor]

Or maybe depresso - the feeling you get when you run out of coffee beans.

BTW: I buy green beans, roast them myself, grind 'em at the moment of use. Yeah: I am a coffee fanatic....... (and you could not drag me into a StarF*cks!)

 

[anand]

Or maybe depresso - the feeling you get when you run out of coffee beans.

Also the expression coffee purists give me when I tell them I only drink decaf coffee....

 

[Fidei Defensor]

Wait, is it "expresso?"

You obviously have difficulty expressing yourself......

 

[Tazzieman]

Wait, is it "expresso?"

It's no more "expresso" than "wala" is somehow the same as "voila"

 

[Fidei Defensor]

It's no more "expresso" than "wala" is somehow the same as "voila"

touché.......

 

[vjmvjm]

It's no more "expresso" than "wala" is somehow the same as "voila"

 

[curb-optional]

I'm sorry, but that just calls for this

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OMG - what a selfie you have posted of yourself Tazzieman!

 

[Tazzieman]

OMG - what a selfie you have posted of yourself Tazzieman!

There is nothing wrong with going to a party in drag just once in your life
Just once though.

 

[Rab]

Might turn out to be a “Hotel California “ just once though

 

[stickshifter]

"We've learned a lot (after the start of European production). It's not a vastly different vehicle that we're building, but the US will, I hope, customers will be the determinant, but the U.S. will benefit from everything we learned last year. And we'll be getting a kind of more modern configuration of the car.”

This was from an Autoweek article about the Quartermaster launch at Goodwood. Seems like they're taking lessons learned from early deliveries and making adjustments before building US spec vehicles. As a US buyer, I'm pumped to hear this! Lots more info in the article.

https://www.autoweek.com/news/truck...pickup-talks-3-more-models-coming-after-that/

As a US buyer, I had the opposite reaction. What this mostly means is that the US-spec vehicles are coming with all the modern nannies that a lot of Grenadier buyers were hoping to avoid when they signed-up to purchase a "simple" modern vehicle. These include: (1) lane-keep assist, (2) autonomous braking - which is notoriously problematic (yeah, it will save some lives, but it would save more lives if people stopped texting while driving) and (3) drowsy driver detection (a new name for "drunk-driver detection") - which alerts you if it detects that you are drowsy or drunk. According to Section 24220 of the Infrastructure and Investment Act, which passed drowsy-driver detection into law, the software should have the capability of shutting down a vehicle if the drowsy driver continues to drive - but it remains to be seen if and when that part of it rolls out. Again, this may save some lives, but its not something I want in my vehicle - mostly due to the potential for malfunction. Here is a copy-and-paste from Section 24220 of that act:

I don't trust Ineos, or any other manufacturer, to produce this kind of software that works as intended.

Obviously, opinions will be divided on the issue of mandatory safety equipment in the Grenadier and all other U.S. vehicles. This is just my perspective.

 

[DaveB]

As a US buyer, I had the opposite reaction. What this mostly means is that the US-spec vehicles are coming with all the modern nannies that a lot of Grenadier buyers were hoping to avoid when they signed-up to purchase a "simple" modern vehicle. These include: (1) lane-keep assist, (2) autonomous braking - which is notoriously problematic (yeah, it will save some lives, but it would save more lives if people stopped texting while driving) and (3) drowsy driver detection (a new name for "drunk-driver detection") - which alerts you if it detects that you are drowsy or drunk. According to Section 24220 of the Infrastructure and Investment Act, which passed drowsy-driver detection into law, the software should have the capability of shutting down a vehicle if the drowsy driver continues to drive - but it remains to be seen if and when that part of it rolls out. Again, this may save some lives, but its not something I want in my vehicle - mostly due to the potential for malfunction. Here is a copy-and-paste from Section 24220 of that act:
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I don't trust Ineos, or any other manufacturer, to produce this kind of software that works as intended.

Obviously, opinions will be divided on the issue of mandatory safety equipment in the Grenadier and all other U.S. vehicles. This is just my perspective.

I agree with you.
Whatever happened to people taking responsibility for their own actions.
If you do not have the ability to steer a vehicle within your lane, brake when needed and identify when you are getting too tired to drive then pull over and take a break or a nap.

 

[Krabby]

Whatever happened to people taking responsibility for their own actions.

 

[Roach]

As a US buyer, I had the opposite reaction. What this mostly means is that the US-spec vehicles are coming with all the modern nannies that a lot of Grenadier buyers were hoping to avoid when they signed-up to purchase a "simple" modern vehicle. These include: (1) lane-keep assist, (2) autonomous braking - which is notoriously problematic (yeah, it will save some lives, but it would save more lives if people stopped texting while driving) and (3) drowsy driver detection (a new name for "drunk-driver detection") - which alerts you if it detects that you are drowsy or drunk. According to Section 24220 of the Infrastructure and Investment Act, which passed drowsy-driver detection into law, the software should have the capability of shutting down a vehicle if the drowsy driver continues to drive - but it remains to be seen if and when that part of it rolls out. Again, this may save some lives, but its not something I want in my vehicle - mostly due to the potential for malfunction. Here is a copy-and-paste from Section 24220 of that act:
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I don't trust Ineos, or any other manufacturer, to produce this kind of software that works as intended.

Obviously, opinions will be divided on the issue of mandatory safety equipment in the Grenadier and all other U.S. vehicles. This is just my perspective.

Agree but…as I get older, I like having a second opinion