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UK: anyone made any progress with insurers yet? I sent a message to NFU last week but nothing yet received.
 

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I tried several of the price comparison websites.

One had nothing but two had details for the Grenadier in their database. Unfortunately, both only had the two Belstaff editions.

I crunched the details in both, only to get to the end and receive a message that they could both not offer any quotes!

So, two steps forward, one step back!
 

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UK: anyone made any progress with insurers yet? I sent a message to NFU last week but nothing yet received.
Spoke to NFU today - they knew about the Grenadier (Belstaff and commercial models) but were not able/willing to quote unless I was taking delivery in next 30 days.
 

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Information I recently received is that Thatcham are in the process of testing then issuing a vehicle group rating to the ABI, insurers should be able to quote in December.
I received another call from Ineos customer service today re contracts etc. I took the opportunity of pressing them on delivery date etc and it was the good news bad news situation.
Good news is my trialmaster is in the very first batch to go down the assembly line.
Bad news is it is due to be completed by 13th January 2023, with delivery to me within 60 days! so the email prior to signing the contract stating delivery December 22 or January 32 was rubbish!
 

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Tks J8hn and PBD. Much appreciated
 
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Information I recently received is that Thatcham are in the process of testing then issuing a vehicle group rating to the ABI, insurers should be able to quote in December.
I received another call from Ineos customer service today re contracts etc. I took the opportunity of pressing them on delivery date etc and it was the good news bad news situation.
Good news is my trialmaster is in the very first batch to go down the assembly line.
Bad news is it is due to be completed by 13th January 2023, with delivery to me within 60 days! so the email prior to signing the contract stating delivery December 22 or January 32 was rubbish!
Good evening,

I was recommended to get quotes from specialist 4x4 insurers, Adrian Flux quoted £1262.59, and a £1000 excess, with full no claims and a clean licence. I think they will get their act together soon.

Interested in your information on delivery, Ive been told January/ February for delivery but yet to see the contract despite repeatedly asking...
 

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I just got the clearance posting the table for the table regarding the producer and type key numbers. I guess that should help at least within the EU.
 

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What do you use this information for?
Its a system to clearly identify a specific model of a car. With this system there is no misunderstanding about the vehicle you want to insure.
Every model/motor combination gets its own TSN. So the insurance can give you a quote for your car if you have those two numbers.
I am curious how long my insurance needs to give me a quote as I believe that they do not entered the numbers in their database yet...
 

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Its a system to clearly identify a specific model of a car. With this system there is no misunderstanding about the vehicle you want to insure.
Every model/motor combination gets its own TSN. So the insurance can give you a quote for your car if you have those two numbers.
I am curious how long my insurance needs to give me a quote as I believe that they do not entered the numbers in their database yet...
You have so many more different types of vehicles in Europe, compared to Australia so I can see where this would make life easier.
 

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I've sent an inquiry to HUK24. Will keep you updated.

Betreff: KFZ Versicherung, HSN/TSN

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
für das Fahrzeug mit der HSN 2295 und der TSN AAB finde ich bei Ihnen keinen Eintrag. Es handelt sich um einen "Ineos Grenadier".

Bis wann ist mit dieser HSN/TSN in Ihrem Angebot zu rechnen?

Freundliche Grüße,
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You have so many more different types of vehicles in Europe, compared to Australia so I can see where this would make life easier.
It's maybe a German thoroughness thing: These numbers are part of your official vehicle- and registration-documents which you always have to carry with you when driving the car.
 

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I talked with someone from my insurance company this morning. She told me that she had a chat with the headquarter regarding the IG. She has been told that the HSN and TSN will be part of the official lists as soon as the production will be officially approved.
This should be on the 20th of January 2023.
I do not know whether this is true or not but as we do not know from any dealer or customer that he/she/it got a regular car (not a PTO!) it seems to be possible.
 

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Can you tell which insurance it is? Just to watch it appear?
 

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I've sent an inquiry to HUK24. Will keep you updated.
I forgot the update:

There was actually no result, except that they pointed me to their mother company (HUK) to ask for a quote. I didn't.
 

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I talked with someone from my insurance company this morning. She told me that she had a chat with the headquarter regarding the IG. She has been told that the HSN and TSN will be part of the official lists as soon as the production will be officially approved.
This should be on the 20th of January 2023.
I do not know whether this is true or not but as we do not know from any dealer or customer that he/she/it got a regular car (not a PTO!) it seems to be possible.
My insurance R&V told me nearly the same: Wait until middle of january to get a quote.
 

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Yes, my insurance company HUK has also not contacted me as announced. They were supposed to send me the offer last week. But I'm not disappointed, because I didn't expect them to get back to me. I just thought they were working with INEOS customer service. ;)
 
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Good to read Bemax’s comment but without guaranteed insurance I would be very wary of signing a non refundable payment just to have my vehicle sitting on the drive. NFU were said to have been asked to quote but my local rep has no knowledge of this let alone a price.
 

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Good to read Bemax’s comment but without guaranteed insurance I would be very wary of signing a non refundable payment just to have my vehicle sitting on the drive. NFU were said to have been asked to quote but my local rep has no knowledge of this let alone a price.
You will get a quote anyway. My one is for a 110 Defender with 249 hp as an „equivalent“ car. First I got upset because the IG is certainly not a Defender. Then I thought it maybe might not worth to explain the people from the insurance why they are so wrong…
 
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