Had to have vehicle towed today - editing title - found out not Ineos' fault!

[Deleted member 9047666 (user closed account)]

That is funny! You are lucky to be in ATL and close to a dealer!

 

[ADVAW8S]

@dreamalaska
The work has already been done. You can find it in this thread.

Main fuses used in INEOS Grenadier

There are at least SIX different fuse types can be used in the IEOS Grenadier, being: Mini blade fuse (not a low-profile Mini fuse or a Micro2 fuse); JCase Low Profile fuse (895/PAL); JCase Long Profile fuse (495/PAL) - also called just a JCase fuse; ZCASE® MEGA fuse (and SHUNTS); Midi fuse...

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[Tazzieman]

Currently, just use my forefinger which rests on the tip of the key. I can then guide the blade in quite easily.
Quite difficult to explain without a few childish giggles.

Standing , sitting or kneeling?

 

[pmatusov]

I just lean in and put the key in before I get in the, it's so easy to see as it's just the right height

Long story...
About 40 years ago, our parents, I, my wife of two months, and my little brother, set off on a road trip in Russia in an old Lada. After the long day of driving, pulled off into the forest road to camp; four of us slept in the tent (set up right up against the front bumper of the car), and my little brother slept in the car.
He woke up the first, and got bored quickly. His first thing to do in the morning was to turn the key in the ignition; he didn't "put the key in" all the way, but, being a pretty strong fellow, managed to twist the key off.
The annoyance of having a single car key broken in half was tempered by realization what would have happened if he did put the key all the way in. It was a stick shift, commonly parked in the first gear without parking brake. Our heads were like a foot from the front bumper, and maybe two feet - from the front wheels.

I plucked the broken bit from the ignition, hailed the ride into the nearest town with a Lada dealer and had a couple of new keys made. Sharing the nature of breakdown with the gloomy people in line to the counter was fun.

 

[Tazzieman]

@pmatusov I thought you could start an old Lada with a smouldering cigarette? Just fuse the correct wires and drop the stub it into the intake

 

[Eric]

@pmatusov I thought you could start an old Lada with a smouldering cigarette? Just fuse the correct wires and drop the stub it into the intake

I thought they had "generic keys" ( like early tractors and excavators) aka a screwdriver

 

[pmatusov]

@pmatusov I thought you could start an old Lada with a smouldering cigarette? Just fuse the correct wires and drop the stub it into the intake

Don't doubt that. But I am glad that the key broke

 

[Efatl]

Hi Efatl, I found the same thing out about placing a ring around the outer edge of the key opening. It won't let the key be inserted far enough to work. So I came up with another solution to put a stainless steel washer inside the inner key opening. See the link below that includes photos. @Jean Mercier posted afterwards that using a polished copper washer that was sprayed with a clear lacquer might look nice and even be more visable. Either way it's helpful except when it is pitch black out. DaBull
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/wheres-the-key-slot.12415328/

Thanks! Done! I did that this week and it helps to see it (and still starts )

 

[Efatl]

Can you please take a pic of that fuse or describe where it’s located that needs to come from Europe? Any other fuses like that should be prepurchased and carried in the glove box. If you’re caught in the boonies and it blows (literally) that would be a horrible surprise to find out in the moment that the local auto parts store doesn’t have that kind available. Another “boobytrap” dammit?

Sorry-I don't know where it's located, the dealership replaced it. They were able to source one from AutoZone instead of waiting for one to come from Europe.

 

[GWClarke]

Our Grenadier would not crank today. All lights, screen, power were normal, just would not turn over. I checked voltage, 12.7v and battery level was 98%.
It turns out we were not pushing the key into the ignition switch far enough. This was a result of installing one of the illumination rings around the key hole, picture attached.
This little ring was just thick enough to prevent the key from being fully inserted! The key would turn normally with all power acting normally, just no crank. I was about to get a tow, thankfully we did not.

 

[Efatl]

Exactly what happened to me! Why'd you figure it out before you had to have a toad

Our Grenadier would not crank today. All lights, screen, power were normal, just would not turn over. I checked voltage, 12.7v and battery level was 98%.
It turns out we were not pushing the key into the ignition switch far enough. This was a result of installing one of the illumination rings around the key hole, picture attached.
This little ring was just thick enough to prevent the key from being fully inserted! The key would turn normally with all power acting normally, just no crank. I was about to get a tow, thankfully we did not.

Exactly what happened to me! Glad you figured it out before you had to have a towed

 

[DaBull]

Our Grenadier would not crank today. All lights, screen, power were normal, just would not turn over. I checked voltage, 12.7v and battery level was 98%.
It turns out we were not pushing the key into the ignition switch far enough. This was a result of installing one of the illumination rings around the key hole, picture attached.
This little ring was just thick enough to prevent the key from being fully inserted! The key would turn normally with all power acting normally, just no crank. I was about to get a tow, thankfully we did not.

Looks like a cool cheap theft deterrent. Just stick it on when you park your car and take it off before starting it.
Da Bull

 

[Cheshire cat]

Difficult to add to this subject without invoking innuendo.
All I will say is…. No, even that doesn’t work.

 

[parb]

Can you please take a pic of that fuse or describe where it’s located that needs to come from Europe? Any other fuses like that should be prepurchased and carried in the glove box. If you’re caught in the boonies and it blows (literally) that would be a horrible surprise to find out in the moment that the local auto parts store doesn’t have that kind available. Another “boobytrap” dammit?

If there is one thing I wish we would have in the forum shop is a good box with all the fuses combined with an index card of where they go.

To the OP, thanks for sharing and being honest with the solution. I was planning to put on a ring but your post has helped me avoid making that mistake! I applaud you!

 

[jucumari]

Here is a link to my related ongoing issue. I have no electrical power, no way to shift into Neutral, and unsuccessfully attempted to use the Neutral bolt turning method to put the car into Neutral in order to have towed to the Ineos dealer on a flatbed tow truck. Cross posting here in case others are encountering similar issues.

No screen and multiple alarms - update 30OCT24 (theineosforum.com)