Grenadier build slot DELAY thread

[Stu_Barnes]

Thread moved

 

[Mitchell300]

Got an email as well, November build delayed up to a month.

 

[acwiltshire]

I was only told last Friday at Ragley that my contract would be coming this week. So it didn't and thus I have nothing signed. Concerned that the next deal breaker would be a price hike.

 

[DaveB]

I just received notification that my build date hasn't changed. It is in April 2023

 

[DCPU]

There’s a parts shortage ???

An IA parts buyer was heard to say !

If only they had a parts buyer...

Look at Linked In, Ineos Automotive have current 123 vacancies including:

Apprentice Purchasing Assistant
Procurement Lead
Specifications Administrator
Manager (Team Lead) Procurement
Procurement Lead - Project Budget Controller
Procurement Project Sourcing Lead
Procurement Specialist - EE
Procurement Specialist - Body or Chassis
Procurement Specialist - Powertrain
Procurement Specialist - Accessories, Interiors & /or Exteriors

And pertinent to the current thread:

Timing & Scheduling Specialist
Capacity Planner
Order Fulfillment & Ramp Up Lead

Oh, and they're also looking for a Recruiter & a Recruitment Business Partner to help with all of the above...

 

[DCPU]

In the video, it was said that they cannot ramp up production as quickly as planned due to parts supply. It seems that vehicles will be built in smaller numbers after all. I have not received any e-mail regarding a delay for my order. I will call the customer service tomorrow.

That's another thing that didn't ring fully true. Previously, we were told (the BTG Live event that was streamed) that initial build numbers would be very low as they took extended "takt" times to ensure quality before looking to speed the line and then ramp production.

This is not about ramping up production, it feels more about starting production ~ I'd have expected the earliest of the early handraisers cars to be in the initial build, not ramped production, so why would they be delayed.

 

[DCPU]

With worldwide inflation running at significant levels, anyone think the next unwanted surprise will be for a price increase for all of us who are still waiting to sign their contracts?

Let's hope they take a lesson from Rivian on that one...

 

[DCPU]

I just received notification that my build date hasn't changed. It is in April 2023

I think that's because it's over the horizon at the moment and they won't be looking at it yet.

On a positive note, I've been telling everyone my estimated build month is December. I just checked the paperwork and it was November. So I've not really lost any time.

 

[emax]

@Shaky
> it’s not as if everyone will be driving round in theirs whilst I am left standing at the bus stop so to speak.

It's not all over yet ...

 

[emax]

@DCPU
> I think the words were "delayed by up to a month" ; so no more than a month and possibly less.

... for the time being.

 

[DCPU]

@DCPU
> I think the words were "delayed by up to a month" ; so no more than a month and possibly less.

... for the time being.

At times like this, I fallback to my favourite meme.

 

[emax]

Well, I am basically not a pessimist.

But here, too, a saying comes to mind: the optimist believes that we live in the best possible world imaginable. And the pessimist fears that the optimist is right.

From that point of view, I might be a pessimist after all - as far as our delivery dates are concerned.

 

[grenadierboy]

In our hearts we all knew this was possible/likely.

The message is slower production not a delay to production commencement, although if parts dry up then there could be a pause.

INEOS can't be immune from reality.

 

[emax]

> slower production
Might yield better quality (hope dies last).

 

[OGrid]

If only they had a parts buyer...

Look at Linked In, Ineos Automotive have current 123 vacancies including:

Apprentice Purchasing Assistant
Procurement Lead
Specifications Administrator
Manager (Team Lead) Procurement
Procurement Lead - Project Budget Controller
Procurement Project Sourcing Lead
Procurement Specialist - EE
Procurement Specialist - Body or Chassis
Procurement Specialist - Powertrain
Procurement Specialist - Accessories, Interiors & /or Exteriors

And pertinent to the current thread:

Timing & Scheduling Specialist
Capacity Planner
Order Fulfillment & Ramp Up Lead

Oh, and they're also looking for a Recruiter & a Recruitment Business Partner to help with all of the above...

Nice find

 

[OGrid]

January 2023 build for me (Australia)

Received an email as well, apparently my ‘build slot is still in place’ - no video, though email is cryptic.

“We understand how much you’re looking forward to taking delivery of your new Grenadier – like you, we can’t wait to see our rugged 4X4 out there in the world. We therefore wanted to reassure you that your allocated build slot is still in place and we remain confident we will be able to produce your Grenadier as originally planned.

That said, we have not been immune from the supply chain issues that have impacted vehicle delivery times across the industry in recent months which means we are unable to build vehicles at the rate we had planned. This slower ramp-up will impact some of our early customers, but we fully expect to have reached full manufacturing speed when the time comes to build your Grenadier.” - Ineos

Build slot doesn’t necessarily equate to build date/month in my book. Time will tell.

 

[Michael H.]

January 2023 build for me (Australia)

Received an email as well, apparently my ‘build slot is still in place’ - no video, though email cryptic. Build slot doesn’t necessarily equate to build date/month in my book. Time will tell.

“We understand how much you’re looking forward to taking delivery of your new Grenadier – like you, we can’t wait to see our rugged 4X4 out there in the world. We therefore wanted to reassure you that your allocated build slot is still in place and we remain confident we will be able to produce your Grenadier as originally planned.

That said, we have not been immune from the supply chain issues that have impacted vehicle delivery times across the industry in recent months which means we are unable to build vehicles at the rate we had planned. This slower ramp-up will impact some of our early customers, but we fully expect to have reached full manufacturing speed when the time comes to build your Grenadier.” - Ineos

The video seems to be specific to some of the earliest expected build slots (in my case September) which are now said to be delayed “up to one month”.

 

[Tazzieman]

It'll be alright in the end...and if it's not alright , it's not the end

 

[WhiteBear]

For all our german members:

„Et kütt wie et kütt. Und wenn et nich kütt, kütt et och.“ Rheinisches Grundgesetz Artikel 2a

 

[Cavaleiro]

For all our german members:

„Et kütt wie et kütt. Und wenn et nich kütt, kütt et och.“ Rheinisches Grundgesetz Artikel 2a

"Wat willze maache"

Or as they would say more southern in IA Germany headquarters:

"Mr muss ´s nemma wie ´s kommt"