fuel tank capacity

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Does the aluminium foil not take any capacity out of the can?

2% loss of fuel capacity but I can live with that. The extra safety and peace of mind when having 5 x20L Jerry cans full of petrol Is worth it. It’s the only solution at the moment for going to remote regions in the petrol version. Hopefully at some point the aftermarket will come up with auxiliary fuel tanks for the Grenadier.

 

[Telliottaus]

Does anyone know if the Diesel fuel filler allows you to fill up using truck diesel fillers? In Australia they are called HIGH FLOW bowsers.
Usually 4x4 have the larger filler necks to allow the larger high flow fillers - however not all 4x4's have that ability.

Ño, Unfortunately it won't take a high flow nozzle...I've tried

 

[Tom109]

Wavian explosafe 20L fuel cans as back up for our Southern African travels. Hoping to go through Central Kalahari Game Reserve and Northern Namibia so extra range required. 5 x 20L cans View attachment 7817546View attachment 7817547View attachment 7817548

Yellow Petrol jerry cans? I have yellow for diesel, red (and a few NATO green) for petrol.

 

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Yellow Petrol jerry cans? I have yellow for diesel, red (and a few NATO green) for petrol.

Yes and they have “petrol highly flammable“ stamped into them.

 

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Coloured fuel cans

What’s your favourite colour Fuel Can? – Wavian Quality Fuel Cans & Accessories

www.jerrycans.co.uk

 

[Tom109]

Crazy. Below is what I have gone by. I know that in US States that adopted California’s CARB laws it is illegal to put gasoline in a non-CARB compliant RED fuel can. Even though no one bothers in my area.

FUEL STORAGE CANS - GETTING THE COLOR RIGHT​

 

[bigleonski]

Ño, Unfortunately it won't take a high flow nozzle...I've tried

So the Grenadier isn’t a real 4wd after all.

 

[anand]

So the Grenadier isn’t a real 4wd after all.

I'm missing some sort of Aussie specific joke here apparently....

 

[DenisM]

I'm missing some sort of Aussie specific joke here apparently....

Hi @anand , it's a bit of an "in joke"
Some 4wd enthusiasts here prefer to line up at the "hi-flow" diesel pump with the big trucks, B-doubles and road trains in their Nissan Patrol or Land Cruiser (mainly). Whereas the big boys might load up to 1000+ litres (200+ gallons) , our intrepid 4wd pilots probably take on a tenth of that amount. They may save 2c a litre and two minutes filling time.. but hey...
My former neighbour, a fuel bowser tech. used chuckle at this saying any perceived gains were illusory since the margin for delivery error on a high flow pump was slightly greater than a slower pump.. wasn't intentional but related to the flow measurement tech. at the time. Perhaps it has improved. perhaps not...

 

[bigleonski]

Hi @anand , it's a bit of an "in joke"
Some 4wd enthusiasts here prefer to line up at the "hi-flow" diesel pump with the big trucks, B-doubles and road trains in their Nissan Patrol or Land Cruiser (mainly). Whereas the big boys might load up to 1000+ litres (200+ gallons) , our intrepid 4wd pilots probably take on a tenth of that amount. They may save 2c a litre and two minutes filling time.. but hey...
My former neighbour, a fuel bowser tech. used chuckle at this saying any perceived gains were illusory since the margin for delivery error on a high flow pump was slightly greater than a slower pump.. wasn't intentional but related to the flow measurement tech. at the time. Perhaps it has improved. perhaps not...

That's it - a big boy 4wd'er joke.
That said, most service stations have a couple of hi-flow pumps with the normal ones these days (so you don't have to line up with the big boys), and if you're dropping 130L in the tank you can save yourself about 2 minutes of non drinking time.
And I didn't realise it was cheaper at the truck stop pumps @DenisM - I might have to check that out.

 

[DaveB]

That's it - a big boy 4wd'er joke.
That said, most service stations have a couple of hi-flow pumps with the normal ones these days (so you don't have to line up with the big boys), and if you're dropping 130L in the tank you can save yourself about 2 minutes of non drinking time.
And I didn't realise it was cheaper at the truck stop pumps @DenisM - I might have to check that out.

The truck pumps can also be a different quality diesel as well.
Premium diesel often containers a detergent or engine cleaner.

 

[bigleonski]

The truck pumps can also be a different quality diesel as well.
Premium diesel often containers a detergent or engine cleaner.

Yeah I'm ok with the normal stuff if that's all that is available - doesn't bother me either way. I usually add some chemtech to every second tank anyway.

 

[AWo]

[QUOTE username=Ferrugenfish userid=9004165 postid=1332974005]If you happen to be in the United States the IG petrol will come with a 100 liter tank (26.4 gallons). I'm not sure if it's the same in Canada.

This is great - and will negate the need to carry extra fuel for most American owners. I can only think of one place I go somewhat regularly where I would need to carry a little extra. Just for reference (all gas engines):

Jeep Gladiator (2020-present) has an 84-liter tank (22 U.S. gallons)
3rd Gen Tacoma (2017-present) has an 80-liter tank (21.1 U.S. gallons)
Jeep JL Wrangler (2018-present) has an 82-liter tank (21.5 U.S. gallons)
Ford Bronco (2021-present) has a 68-liter tank (17.9 U.S. gallons)

Source (you can select a different make and model from the drop-down menu at the top): https://fueltankcap.com/ford/bronco
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I think you have to look at the volume of the tank always with the engine and its fuel consumption in mind. That could make a difference.

AWo

 

[Tom109]

This is great - and will negate the need to carry extra fuel for most American owners. I can only think of one place I go somewhat regularly where I would need to carry a little extra. Just for reference (all gas engines):

Jeep Gladiator (2020-present) has an 84-liter tank (22 U.S. gallons)
3rd Gen Tacoma (2017-present) has an 80-liter tank (21.1 U.S. gallons)
Jeep JL Wrangler (2018-present) has an 82-liter tank (21.5 U.S. gallons)
Ford Bronco (2021-present) has a 68-liter tank (17.9 U.S. gallons)

Source (you can select a different make and model from the drop-down menu at the top): https://fueltankcap.com/ford/bronco

I think you have to look at the volume of the tank always with the engine and its fuel consumption in mind. That could make a difference.

AWo
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Consumption rate is always the rule.

 

[AnD3rew]

Have decided that for now the best option for me to extend range is the Armadillo fuel bladders. I have purchased 2 x 18.9lt bladders. That gives me 37.8lt of additional fuel so 127.8lt with main tank. So about 980 kms of range at worst possible fuel consumption rates. 1200km at best possible rates. I think that will do me for the moment. I suspect that even if someone manages an auxiliary tank for the Grenadier it is likely to be not a lot bigger than that. The bladders are also nice in that you can roll them up and store them away when you don’t need them, or when you have emptied them and they don’t take up a huge amount of space. Will also play around with potential ways of hanging then off the rear ladder or even the utility rails.

 

[bigleonski]

Have decided that for now the best option for me to extend range is the Armadillo fuel bladders. I have purchased 2 x 18.9lt bladders. That gives me 37.8lt of additional fuel so 127.8lt with main tank. So about 980 kms of range at worst possible fuel consumption rates. 1200km at best possible rates. I think that will do me for the moment. I suspect that even if someone manages an auxiliary tank for the Grenadier it is likely to be not a lot bigger than that. The bladders are also nice in that you can roll them up and store them away when you don’t need them, or when you have emptied them and they don’t take up a huge amount of space. Will also play around with potential ways of hanging then off the rear ladder or even the utility rails.

What’s that - about 13L/100km for your worst case scenario? Gees I’ve been driving land cruisers for far too long. Crossing the Simpson for example I’ve always worked on 20L/100km for a TD and 25L for a petrol. I wouldn’t use that, but it allowed for back tracking or towing or something worst case happening.

Those fuel bladders look the goods and probably more versatile than jerrycans but shees they’re expensive.

I’ve never gone with the long range tanks. I figure carrying jerrys works well enough for the limited number of places that you really need to carry fuel these days.

 

[AnD3rew]

What’s that - about 13L/100km for your worst case scenario? Gees I’ve been driving land cruisers for far too long. Crossing the Simpson for example I’ve always worked on 20L/100km for a TD and 25L for a petrol. I wouldn’t use that, but it allowed for back tracking or towing or something worst case happening.

Those fuel bladders look the goods and probably more versatile than jerrycans but shees they’re expensive.

I’ve never gone with the long range tanks. I figure carrying jerrys works well enough for the limited number of places that you really need to carry fuel these days.

TBH that’s probably not worst case scenario. I suspect Long distances in soft sand would go beyond that, but the quoted figures are 10.1 - 11.7 for the Diesel so I used 10 and 13 for my best and worst cases. But I suspect the 11.7 is heavily loaded on road, rather than sand plugging, I would be more conservative planning for that.

 

[DenisM]

Just clocked 3250km (diesel), 2500 or so on highway including 2000km+ down east coast (almost all motorway) Brisbane to Geelong. Tas. distances include a lot of slower mountainous narrow roads. To date, av is 11 66L/100km overall. Worst was 12.5 cruising at 105km/hr on Pacific and Hume highways while slow trip on Bruny Isl. was 10.5 L/100km Engine beginning to free-up noticeably.
Current load: self and wife...say 130kg, suitcases plus bibs and bobs another 50kg..so all up load is about 200kg excl fuel.
Only external additional weight are side runners (25kg total).
No bullbar/winch or roof rack).

ps: a 130 L tank would be ideal
pps: fuel gauge calibration and hence remaining range algorithm is woeful. assuming 90 L tank, say 87L useable, mine takes 45L to the auto bowser cut-off just below the 3/4 full mark on the fuel gauge!!

 

[globalgregors]

Have decided that for now the best option for me to extend range is the Armadillo fuel bladders. I have purchased 2 x 18.9lt bladders. That gives me 37.8lt of additional fuel so 127.8lt with main tank. So about 980 kms of range at worst possible fuel consumption rates. 1200km at best possible rates. I think that will do me for the moment. I suspect that even if someone manages an auxiliary tank for the Grenadier it is likely to be not a lot bigger than that. The bladders are also nice in that you can roll them up and store them away when you don’t need them, or when you have emptied them and they don’t take up a huge amount of space. Will also play around with potential ways of hanging then off the rear ladder or even the utility rails.

Interesting. Have you used them before? Do they reek of diesel after use… can they be carried in the interior when emptied?

 

[AnD3rew]

Interesting. Have you used them before? Do they reek of diesel after use… can they be carried in the interior when emptied?

No I haven’t used before. I am hopeful that if you are careful not to splash diesel on the outside they will be ok.