Fitting a Lumbar roll. Seat tilt.

[Tom D]

Has anyone dismantled a seat yet? I’d be interested in pics.
Whilst I have found the grenadier comfortable to drive and have now done about 3000 miles in it I would still like more lumbar support than the seats provide. This may just be a peculiarity of mine as most people don’t mention it. I have a historic back injury and associated nerve damage and I think I’d prefer some extra support. I know you can get cheap strap on or stick on rolls but I’d prefer an internal adjustable version.
In my defender I had an aftermarket inflatable one that fitted inside the seat. It worked perfectly well, but that defender seats are pretty easy to open up to fit the roll. Not so sure about the IG ones.
Has anyone had a recall seat apart before?
I’ll carefully strip it blind if I have to but any info gratefully received.

I am also interested in tilting the seat back slightly to raise the front part under the back of the knees. Any aftermarket kits for that yet? Again I’ll fabricate something if I have to.

 

[DenisM]

I also have back problems... I've taken to putting a small rolled towel in a large sock like a sausage, tied at each end with "camo cord" and looping the cord around the headrest supports so that the "sausage" sits horizontally in the small of my back. On advice from a physiotherapist, I now make a real effort to sit straight (when I remember!), rather than "lounge" in the seat. A benefit is that I am more alert as well
Recaro might have some ideas as well as to what might be done...who knows, it might lead to a new offering to Ineos!

 

[DaveB]

We have gone over this one a few times but I am stunned when watching many of the reviews of the Grenadier just how bad many of the seating positions are and the handling of the steering wheel.
I think a lot of the comments about the Grenadier footrest came from poor driver seating position rather than vehicle ergonomics.
So many get in, crank the seat down and back, like they are driving a sedan or race car.
I have done a couple of advanced driver training courses and a couple of 4WD courses and seating position is extremely important, but also extremely different.
Every person below would end up with a sore back, neck and shoulders on a long drive.
On a recent work advanced driving track day they had to correct everyone's seating and steering wheel hold before they could start
For me they tried to change my grip as I keep my thumbs outside the wheel.
I declined.
One guy suffered badly from a bad back when driving and by the time they corrected his posture he had no more troubles.

 

[evomind]

My seat is adjusted appropriately for a track day and it is different than when I am leisurely driving down the highway.
The question was about seat adjustability or possible enhancements to the seat.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Buzz overland have fitted completely different seats which look like a Recaro product. Whether they have lumbar adjustment, I'm not sure. If you don't find the seats comfortable enough, perhaps you can change them out too.

 

[evomind]

Perhaps a good upholstery shop can install lumbar or whatever else after purchase.
Has to be cheaper than all new seats idk

 

[ORSO]

I have a lot of back problems myself and that's why I drive a Volvo.
even before making the IG reservation I asked two official Recaro upholsterers near me if they could open the seats to insert a lumbar support and the answer from both was that seats with glued back shells are very complex to close. you never know what work you're getting into [€€€].
For this reason, if it is necessary to insert a lumbar support, I will consider buying M&M or Beesdam seat covers and attach / sew the support internally to those.
I think it's the best and least invasive solution. It then allows you to place it exactly where you want it

https://italian.alibaba.com/product...bar-support-1600316779907.html?fromMSite=true

 

[ORSO]

I,ve found this site:

Sitback® GmbH

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sitback.de

 

[ORSO]

lumbar support fitted

 

[ShootingCar]

I’m sorry that I missed this thread when starting one yesterday about seat adjustment. I just ordered some seat inserts to see if they make a difference.

 

[ShootingCar]

I ordered these seat cushions from Amazon and tried them as is but the wings on the sides exaggerated the seat wings making it too much. I trimmed off the wings on the cushions so they just fitted flat against the seat backs which was where we needed more padding in the lumbar region. I covered them with the Tougher seat covers and they work fine for us. We may try the bottom cushions now and if they work I will trim them and fit them under the Tougher seat covers.