Diesel powered to US

[bbaxter]

I’ve just joined the forum. Don’t own a Grenadier at this time. I had a Toyota FJ40 for 21 years so I am very experienced with off-roading. The Grenadier very much has my interest. I am however a diesel guy. Almost everything I own has a diesel engine. Is there any talk of making the diesel available to the US market ? I am going to Germany in August. Is it possible to buy a diesel in Germany and import it back to the US ?
Thanks, bbaxter

 

[Shopkeep]

Diesel won’t happen is US as BMW does not support the B57 engine in that market.

 

[anand]

Is it possible to buy a diesel in Germany and import it back to the US ?

Sure, just wait another 22 years

 

[bigleonski]

Why is it that diesel isn’t a popular option / made more available for 4wd/passenger vehicles in the US?
Is it because your gas/petrol is so cheap?

 

[anand]

Why is it that diesel isn’t a popular option / made more available for 4wd/passenger vehicles in the US?
Is it because your gas/petrol is so cheap?

Definitely part of it; mixed with the "diesel = dirty" thought over the past few decades (both physically and environmentally). The only "acceptable" diesels that sell well are full size 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, and even the 1/2 ton and smaller ones with diesel options (RAM 1500, F150, Chevy Colorado, etc) sell poorly

VW/Audi's "Dieselgate" in the mid 2010s pretty much sealed the deal on all the Euro brands removing their diesel options, with the only exception being MB Sprinter vans, but those now require annual federal emissions re-certification before the new model year can be released/sold to the public.

Truly a shame. I spent lots of time driving my dad's previous Q5 3.0L TDI (2015) and absolutely loved it, the 34 miles per freedom gallon was just a bonus. For those familiar with the RoW Audi SQ5, here in the US our SQ5s have always been the petrol not the diesel motor

 

[Shopkeep]

Definitely part of it; mixed with the "diesel = dirty" thought over the past few decades (both physically and environmentally). The only "acceptable" diesels that sell well are full size 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, and even the 1/2 ton and smaller ones with diesel options (RAM 1500, F150, Chevy Colorado, etc) sell poorly

VW/Audi's "Dieselgate" in the mid 2010s pretty much sealed the deal on all the Euro brands removing their diesel options, with the only exception being MB Sprinter vans, but those now require annual federal emissions re-certification before the new model year can be released/sold to the public.

Truly a shame. I spent lots of time driving my dad's previous Q5 3.0L TDI (2015) and absolutely loved it, the 34 miles per freedom gallon was just a bonus. For those familiar with the RoW Audi SQ5, here in the US our SQ5s have always been the petrol not the diesel motor

One of the weirdest things I found in the US was the concept of what we call light trucks being gas/petrol powered instead of diesel. The Isuzu N series is the default light truck in Oz (we run them in our business), seeing these mostly running gas V8s flipped my lid. Guess someone has to keep Exxon in business.

 

[NQ94]

One of the weirdest things I found in the US was the concept of what we call light trucks being gas/petrol powered instead of diesel. The Isuzu N series is the default light truck in Oz (we run them in our business), seeing these mostly running gas V8s flipped my lid. Guess someone has to keep Enron in business.
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They would probably sell quite a few petrol Isuzus in Australia if the trucks were available. The US ones are assembled over there and there is also 6.7 Cummins versions available.

 

[bigleonski]

They would probably sell quite a few petrol Isuzus in Australia if the trucks were available. The US ones are assembled over there and there is also 6.7 Cummins versions available.

Did someone say 6.7L Cummins diesel in an Ineos??

 

[Tazzieman]

Did someone say 6.7L Cummins diesel in an Ineos??

You reckon you could stuff it in that toit engine bay?

 

[NQ94]

Did someone say 6.7L Cummins diesel in an Ineos??

Likely in the tray to replace the one that failed in a RAM

 

[CrazyOldMan]

Definitely part of it; mixed with the "diesel = dirty" thought over the past few decades (both physically and environmentally). The only "acceptable" diesels that sell well are full size 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, and even the 1/2 ton and smaller ones with diesel options (RAM 1500, F150, Chevy Colorado, etc) sell poorly

VW/Audi's "Dieselgate" in the mid 2010s pretty much sealed the deal on all the Euro brands removing their diesel options, with the only exception being MB Sprinter vans, but those now require annual federal emissions re-certification before the new model year can be released/sold to the public.

Truly a shame. I spent lots of time driving my dad's previous Q5 3.0L TDI (2015) and absolutely loved it, the 34 miles per freedom gallon was just a bonus. For those familiar with the RoW Audi SQ5, here in the US our SQ5s have always been the petrol not the diesel motor

BMW and Ineos made the right call not to offer it in NAM - but it is truly a shame. Just to give those outside the US some sense of how limited it is - if you pull into an average gas station (let’s say 14 pumps), MAAAAAYBE 1 or 2 have diesel. If it’s a station right off an interstate - or maybe a more rural area where guys are driving 3/4 or 1 ton trucks, the proportion will be higher - but it’s just not super convenient to find.

 

[FlyersFan76]

Why is it that diesel isn’t a popular option / made more available for 4wd/passenger vehicles in the US?
Is it because your gas/petrol is so cheap?

The NA market was turning a corner on Diesel. Land Rover had a few models with Diesel. GM had the Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban's and a think a few small SUV's with Diesel. MB, BMW, etc.

Then VW "lied" and it caused a sour taste again. Funny part of their penalty in the US was to start a company called Electrify America. Go figure.

 

[Tom109]

One of the weirdest things I found in the US was the concept of what we call light trucks being gas/petrol powered instead of diesel. The Isuzu N series is the default light truck in Oz (we run them in our business), seeing these mostly running gas V8s flipped my lid. Guess someone has to keep Exxon in business.
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Modern diesel emission systems have made fleet maintenance very expensive, especially when the motor is not taxed in average daily use (not taxed meaning light, not heavy loads). Petrols on the other hand, run really well and most flat bed towing has shifted to these V8’s (in my area at least).