Creating a shift lever worthy of the Grenadier

[Jackattack13]

The only complaint I have with the shifter is that it doesn't fit the interior styling. Functionality is fine for what it is. I would like something a little more chunky or rugged looking.

 

[ethree]

Part 4: Progress and Plans

With the detailed CAD data sorted out and the ergonomics working well, we are now playing with the style elements and manufacturing details. This is the phase where sufficient prototype iterations really pay off. Every day we 3D-print new shapes and textures to improve the feel and look of certain details about the shifter. I think it is coming along nicely. The pic below shows some recent sketches and a small prototype that we used to improve the blend between a couple faces where the texture changes. These details may seem trivial but when your hand touches this edge multiple times a day it matters.
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We have created a few possible variations worth mentioning:
- with inset red lambda
- with PRND/M indication exposed
- with a location for the Global Grenadiers (forum) badge to reside
- all sorts of color variations

It's not too late to give input on your favorite design elements.

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I'm not sure what exactly comes at the end of this project. It is a great training and development exercise for me and the staff at our office, so we will definitely see it through to a "final" version. Of course final is relative, since we could continue to improve or create variations forever. As a good friend likes to say: "At some point you have to shoot the engineer and go into production." But first we might do a "focus group" test and send a batch of these out to forum members and get their feedback.

I don't know if there is market justification for an injection molded version of this design. Tooling (mold) investment for US manufacturing of the cosmetic housings for both LHD and RHD vehicles is expensive. (Hmmm, perhaps I have come to the same conclusion that Ineos did...) Ultimately I might consider running batches of these as a 3D-printed product for a while. If there is sufficient interest maybe Stu will distribute them via the forum store, like we did with the reverse camera glare shrouds.

It's been a fun project so far.

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Very creative. The BMW style shifter is definitely reliable but style wise it’s eh. Having the window, I think, would be important. Also protects it especially when throwing stuff around the cabin. I’d give that a whirl. Very sharp.

 

[DaveB]

The only complaint I have with the shifter is that it doesn't fit the interior styling. Functionality is fine for what it is. I would like something a little more chunky or rugged looking.

In my Grenadier there is something chunky and rugged looking right next to the shifter.
Well definitely chunky

 

[Krabby]

I think we did the gearstick story to death about 2 years ago.
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It’s no less ugly all these years later though.

 

[Mena2]

Part 4: Progress and Plans

With the detailed CAD data sorted out and the ergonomics working well, we are now playing with the style elements and manufacturing details. This is the phase where sufficient prototype iterations really pay off. Every day we 3D-print new shapes and textures to improve the feel and look of certain details about the shifter. I think it is coming along nicely. The pic below shows some recent sketches and a small prototype that we used to improve the blend between a couple faces where the texture changes. These details may seem trivial but when your hand touches this edge multiple times a day it matters.
View attachment 7855243

We have created a few possible variations worth mentioning:
- with inset red lambda
- with PRND/M indication exposed
- with a location for the Global Grenadiers (forum) badge to reside
- all sorts of color variations

It's not too late to give input on your favorite design elements.

View attachment 7855244

I'm not sure what exactly comes at the end of this project. It is a great training and development exercise for me and the staff at our office, so we will definitely see it through to a "final" version. Of course final is relative, since we could continue to improve or create variations forever. As a good friend likes to say: "At some point you have to shoot the engineer and go into production." But first we might do a "focus group" test and send a batch of these out to forum members and get their feedback.

I don't know if there is market justification for an injection molded version of this design. Tooling (mold) investment for US manufacturing of the cosmetic housings for both LHD and RHD vehicles is expensive. (Hmmm, perhaps I have come to the same conclusion that Ineos did...) Ultimately I might consider running batches of these as a 3D-printed product for a while. If there is sufficient interest maybe Stu will distribute them via the forum store, like we did with the reverse camera glare shrouds.

It's been a fun project so far.

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Wow. That’s impressive. If you ever do sell them I’m in!

 

[grenadierguy]

My understanding is the the Toyota Supra shifter should be plug and play with our Grenadier. Matches the styling perfect IMO. It's what I plan to do at least.

 

[Shaky]

My understanding is the the Toyota Supra shifter should be plug and play with our Grenadier. Matches the styling perfect IMO. It's what I plan to do at least.

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I will be genuinely interested to hear how you go on with this one.

I can’t imagine they will be easy or cheap to source though.

 

[grenadierguy]

I will be genuinely interested to hear how you go on with this one.

I can’t imagine they will be easy or cheap to source though.

About $100 used on eBay or around $200 new from Toyota.

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Edited to add part number.

 

[[ Adam ]]

About $100 used on eBay or around $200 new from Toyota.

33550-WAA01​

Edited to add part number.

I'll give that a try, just picked one up on eBay. Sorry to whoever had it in their cart already

 

[Shaky]

About $100 used on eBay or around $200 new from Toyota.

33550-WAA01​

Edited to add part number.

Wow. I am proved wrong. Thought it would be much more than that. Worth a punt then for the tinkerers amongst us.

 

[grenadierguy]

I'll give that a try, just picked one up on eBay. Sorry to whoever had it in their cart already

Good luck, let us know how it goes. Maybe start a new thread on the subject. I had other things I wanted to do before swapping it out. Wolfbox on top priority, but I need my windows tinted first.

 

[Krabby]

If that works, I'm on board for certain!!!

 

[[ Adam ]]

I'll give that a try, just picked one up on eBay. Sorry to whoever had it in their cart already

Just took a look at the shifter in the Grenadier - definitely not a drop in replacement. Order canceled.

 

[grenadierguy]

Just took a look at the shifter in the Grenadier - definitely not a drop in replacement. Order canceled.

Out of curiosity what is different?

 

[[ Adam ]]

Out of curiosity what is different?

The shape of the base is completely off.

 

[Jeffrey]

I'm happy with the stock shifter. It works fine and looks good. Did I already say this?

 

[ADVAW8S]

The LR pistol shifter box looks more like the bmw. It's 500 on ebay. I use it now in my LR and it fits nice in hands but it is also mounted on angle on the dash versus flat.

 

[terdrocket]

The shape of the base is completely off.


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I bet you can swap the base out. Look at the photo @Jean Mercier posted from one of his many disassembly adventures. https://www.theineosforum.com/media/20230721_114147-jpg.13433/

 

[Max]

I'm happy with the stock shifter. It works fine and looks good. Did I already say this?

Ha ha... interestingly, Ineos didn't change it but I can understand why...it was off the shelf with a brilliant gearbox attached...to me with my high driving position, it is just like a toggle/mouse...I am not holding it to change gears but just moving it with the tips of my fingertips back, forward and sideways...I love the tongue-in-cheek 8 ball beside it for the analoggers like me

 

[Asnes]

It would seem that the replacement lever can be transplanted, potentially, to the original base

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76jfjqFVJYY