Compass/ Altimeter retrofit?

[emax]

A conventional compass does not work in a car because magnetic distortions in the vehicle renders the reading unusable. The distortions come from the metal cage you're sitting in, the electronic noise everywhere, your loudspeakers and so on. There are a zillion sources for distortions.

The Grenadier compass ring is stepper-controlled (you can hear it) and thus fed by some µC. I am almost sure the input comes from the GPS controller.

However, a GPS can only calculate a heading/direction when in move.

So I think that the compass stores the last direction value which came from the GPS upon shut down and reuses this value until it receives a new, valid direction value from the GPS. Because it takes a bit for the GPS to be completely "up and running", the steering angle might be used together with the driving velocity to continuously calculate the direction until the GPS is completely up.

So the Grenadier compass is likely a more sophisticated instrument than one might think. You can not easily replace it with some traditional compass. You can try it: put such a compass on your dashboard and when the car moves just look what it does. It's mostly nonsense.

 

[Tmal]

Just go into offroad mode and select one of these two screens
Everything you need and it is free
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Dave, i've seen that but my issue is that altimeter is off. When i'm at the beach, it says i'm -90 ft. Does any one know how to calibrate it? My dealer said it goes off of the GPS. I can't even find the GPS. Any guidance is helpful.

 

[DenisM]

Dave, i've seen that but my issue is that altimeter is off. When i'm at the beach, it says i'm -90 ft. Does any one know how to calibrate it? My dealer said it goes off of the GPS. I can't even find the GPS. Any guidance is helpful.

I may be way off beam here, but I understood that the gps antenna at least may be under the black composite section above the middle of the windscreen. The gps controller is probably a surface mounted component on the pcb driving the central display unit. I doubt there is, any calibration facility other than perhaps the magic laptop possessed only by Ineos dealers

 

[anand]

Dave, i've seen that but my issue is that altimeter is off. When i'm at the beach, it says i'm -90 ft. Does any one know how to calibrate it? My dealer said it goes off of the GPS. I can't even find the GPS. Any guidance is helpful.

Correct, it is GPS based, and has a variance of ±100ft (or possibly 150ft, but I'm fairly confident it is ±100ft).

The GPS antenna should be under the black "cap" above the windshield along with the Sirius antenna, the "reset" is to drive it somewhere without a GPS signal (like a parking garage or tunnel) and then it will get a "fresh" calibration when it comes back out... in theory

 

[DaveB]

Dave, i've seen that but my issue is that altimeter is off. When i'm at the beach, it says i'm -90 ft. Does any one know how to calibrate it? My dealer said it goes off of the GPS. I can't even find the GPS. Any guidance is helpful.

It reminds me of a time when I said to my wife “I think we are going to get some heavy rain soon.”
She said “no, I just looked at the radar and their is none showing”
I said “ I just looked out the window and it is raining and looking pretty dark”
So I guess if you are at the beach and can see the water, no need to look at the display.

 

[Tmal]

It reminds me of a time when I said to my wife “I think we are going to get some heavy rain soon.”
She said “no, I just looked at the radar and their is none showing”
I said “ I just looked out the window and it is raining and looking pretty dark”
So I guess if you are at the beach and can see the water, no need to look at the display.

Ha! Thanks Dave. I meant that as just a reference. I did talk to my Ineos dealer. They confirmed that there was an issue with the compass/altimeter. They are waiting on a fix. Bummer. At leas thats what they are telling me.

 

[Tmal]

Correct, it is GPS based, and has a variance of ±100ft (or possibly 150ft, but I'm fairly confident it is ±100ft).

The GPS antenna should be under the black "cap" above the windshield along with the Sirius antenna, the "reset" is to drive it somewhere without a GPS signal (like a parking garage or tunnel) and then it will get a "fresh" calibration when it comes back out... in theory

Thank you. i will give that a shot!

 

[Cheshire cat]

For those that didn’t opt for the altimeter, which in real terms is a bit of a letdown. This might be a nice alternative.

 

[Tazzieman]

For those that didn’t opt for the altimeter, which in real terms is a bit of a letdown. This might be a nice alternative.

Very retro ( even Gen Z says "what is it?), but does it make a ticking sound?

 

[Cheshire cat]

Very retro ( even Gen Z says "what is it?), but does it make a ticking sound?

A bit cheaper than the Bentley option