Europe Communication is ZERO! Does anyone know what is going on? (INEOS Automotive)

[JOB]

Ah.. an update by the middle of next month, not a vehicle!
Didn't they say that last month?
Where does that stand with Sir Jim saying customers would start getting their cars at the end of the month....in March

It does rather stink doesn't it. I feel quite sad about it in a way, the delays are annoying for us but the dealers who have adopted the Ineos model, and Ineos Automotive themselves, must be financially blowing their brains out.

However, on Facebook this morning someone reports seeing a 23 plate Grenadier on the road. Hopefully soon to be verified.

 

[Max]

The earth is flat...pigs can fly...and I saw a 23 plate Grenadier on the road...

 

[marko]

However, on Facebook this morning someone reports seeing a 23 plate Grenadier on the road. Hopefully soon to be verified.

I read that on fb too, I think it was a forum member that posted about the 23 plate; @Annee, perhaps she could confirm? thank you!

 

[Annee Grenadier_girl]

I read that on fb too, I think it was a forum member that posted about the 23 plate; @Annee, perhaps she could confirm? thank you!

Hi, so my friend and her partner who works for Mercedes were driving up the M1 near Leicestershire yesterday afternoon and spotted a Grenadier on a 23 plate in green, both know exactly what the Gren looks like as they both drive Gwagons and have followed the Ineos story from the beginning. They are in no doubt that it was a Gren.

 

[jamesfielding]

Hi, so my friend and her partner who works for Mercedes were driving up the M1 near Leicestershire yesterday afternoon and spotted a Grenadier on a 23 plate in green, both know exactly what the Gren looks like as they both drive Gwagons and have followed the Ineos story from the beginning. They are in no doubt that it was a Gren.

Perhaps is was Sir Jim? His is green from memory.

 

[Eric]

Perhaps is was Sir Jim? His is green from memory.

Going to Man Utd to increase his offer again

 

[Jean Mercier]

No ~ you're looking for something like this (old Smart):
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Where:
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This is the sticker inside the drivers door well:

 

[Jeremy996]

Hi, so my friend and her partner who works for Mercedes were driving up the M1 near Leicestershire yesterday afternoon and spotted a Grenadier on a 23 plate in green, both know exactly what the Gren looks like as they both drive Gwagons and have followed the Ineos story from the beginning. They are in no doubt that it was a Gren.

Sandicliffe Ineos Grenadier were at the Point to Point at Garthorpe on Sunday, displaying the vehicle. (Picture lifted from FaceAche)

(I was not to far away marshalling cycle races in a Vauxhall Agila, so Ineos owe me big time!)

 

[Boston Boy]

have we considered that the Grenadier is not an actual vehicle, but rather an NFT of a vehicle. That would explain a lot.

 

[JonSutton]

A road registered vehicle not being driven/shown by a journalist, broadcaster or Ineos staff. I feel faint or was it trailered to site?

 

[Shaky]

A road registered vehicle not being driven/shown by a journalist, broadcaster or Ineos staff. I feel faint or was it trailered to site?

You forgot the other option….or owner of a mall crawler conversion company.

 

[acwiltshire]

I called IA on Friday to try and gleam some more information as to when my 'January Build' car will actually roll down the production line. No info given on that but was reassured we would all receive an update 'towards the middle of next month.

Odds are that my car will be a 73 registration, at the earliest. The green oval is calling.

As i posted , last week I poked the IA cutomer services and discovered that my Jan build was now sitting at my dealer. Went to see it on Friday .... georgeous.

 

[Tom D]

As i posted , last week I poked the IA cutomer services and discovered that my Jan build was now sitting at my dealer. Went to see it on Friday .... georgeous.

What reason did your dealer give for not releasing the car to you? It seems like there are a number of stories doing the rounds.

 

[CountyV8]

What reason did your dealer give for not releasing the car to you? It seems like there are a number of stories doing the rounds.

Yes what was. the reason software, power steering or suspension bushes.

 

[DCPU]

This is the sticker inside the drivers door well:
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e9*2018/858*11384

So type approval taken out in Spain (e9).

REGULATION (EU) 2018/858 OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL
of 30 May 2018 on the approval and market surveillance of motor vehicles and their trailers, and of systems, components and separate technical units intended for such vehicles, amending Regulations (EC) No 715/2007 and (EC) No 595/2009 and repealing Directive 2007/46/EC

Regulation (EU) 2018/858 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 30 May 2018 on the approval and market surveillance of motor vehicles and their trailers, and of systems, components and separate technical units intended for such vehicles, am

Regulation (EU) 2018/858 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 30 May 2018 on the approval and market surveillance of motor vehicles and their trailers, and of systems, components and separate technical units intended for such vehicles, amending Regulations (EC) No 715/2007 and (EC)...

www.legislation.gov.uk

Type approval certificate number 11384.

I can see three versions or iterations of it:
00 issued 30th August 2022 for N1
01 issued 25th October 2022 for N1
01 issued 7th November 2022 for N1(?)
02 issued 22nd March 2023 for both N1 & M1

NorType XML Server

"The NorType project started in the year 2000 and is a cooperation between Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden. NorType's main objective is to maintain a database of technical vehicle information. The data is extracted from Whole Vehicle Type Approvals, put in standardized form and uploaded to the NorType database after quality checks. The database is then used for vehicle registration in the NorType countries. NorType is stationed at The Icelandic Transport Authority (ICETRA) in Iceland."

 

[Krabby]

Yes what was. the reason software, power steering or suspension bushes.

Has IA officially said it was anything other than the software? There's lots of speculation about steering stuff, but I didn't think anything was directly linked to IA.

 

[Jean Mercier]

So type approval taken out in Spain.

I can see three versions or iterations of it:
00 issued 30th August 2022 for N1
01 issued 25th October 2022 for N1
01 issued 7th November 2022 for N1(?)
02 issued 22nd March 2023 for both N1 & M1

View attachment 7807039

NorType XML Server

"The NorType project started in the year 2000 and is a cooperation between Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden. NorType's main objective is to maintain a database of technical vehicle information. The data is extracted from Whole Vehicle Type Approvals, put in standardized form and uploaded to the NorType database after quality checks. The database is then used for vehicle registration in the NorType countries. NorType is stationed at The Icelandic Transport Authority (ICETRA) in Iceland."

So, e9 = Spain?
And first "M1" vehicle registered on March 22?
Could this be the reason that they couldn't deliver a customer vehicle yet? (besides the software update)

 

[Deleted User Account.]

So far Ive seen almost every excuse possible for the situation with the Grenadier except "The Dog Ate my Homework" They drove a million miles to test out the vehicle and now after almost five months of production, not one person has possession of their vehicle. They sit in the car yard of distributers, with the customers, money in hand, looking from outside the fence. There are little glimpses of final production vehicles on loan doing tours of Scotland or being fitted at an aftermarket accessory joint, but nothing with a vehicle in the customers/owners hands. Ineos have vehicles which are registered here in OZ, allowing sporting people to drive "Off Road" but never on the grey matter. Those same vehicles can be driven from town to town by Ineos employees, but not the people who matter. Even vehicles that are coming off the production line today or yesterday fail to get handed over to their respective new owners. There is some legal embargo going on here I suspect and its got zero to do with software upgrades.

Then give us the option to take delivery on the condition we only drive off road until they get it figured out.

 

[Eric]

So, e9 = Spain?
And first "M1" vehicle registered on March 22?
Could this be the reason that they couldn't deliver a customer vehicle yet? (besides the software update)

That would be my understanding @Jean Mercier. Could be why no urgency to flash the software cos they still couldn't register them.

 

[Jean Mercier]

Hmm that same number "e9*2018/858*11384" has been registered by the Swiss on October 19 (Petrol):

Motoriker 1IB301 - INEOS GRENADIER

Swiss type approval (type certificate) 1IB301 - INEOS GRENADIER Information from typenscheine.ch by Motoriker

typenscheine.ch

And a Diesel on November 16

Motoriker 3IE902 - INEOS GRENADIER

Swiss type approval (type certificate) 3IE902 - INEOS GRENADIER Information from typenscheine.ch by Motoriker

typenscheine.ch

Or something like that, "Delivery vehicles" (16/11) and "Passenger Cars" (19/10), whatever they mean by this