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City drivers - do you enjoy your Ineos?

I avoid driving mine to places I know will be a bitch to park like Boston and NYC. Busy suburbs and smaller cities like Providence it does fine. Not the Grenadier’s natural habitat but it’s generally fine.
 
I don't think I've ever been more interested in, yet less sure of, a purchase in my life.

I live in a city, fully work from home and drive roughly 7000 miles/year.

Any thoughts from owners living and driving in dense, urban areas?
If your city has narrow streets and tight turns then this is a non starter as your daily driver. If you have wide avenues and multi lane roads then perfectly fine. Only issue then is the shopping mall car parks which all tend to be about 2inches too low at entry - hence a no go. Reduction in mall trips is the end result which for me and my wallet is a big plus if the wife is driving 😂.
 
The engine and gearbox combo make it a pleasure to drive, and I just live with the downsides.
The downside is Melbourne city. I really don't thin k I could cope longer than a week. Insane traffic, inane drivers.
 
Daily urban driver here. Love it. Cargo space. Wheels out at the corners and slab sides make it easy to judge and park. I live and drive downtown a lot. Tight traffic and shitty drivers. No problem. The Grenadier is chill.

It’s not built for the city. Yet it’s good in the city. Just don’t get hung up on fuel economy. Lol.

EDIT: I’ll add that ANY other vehicle probably pulls a u-turn tighter than a Grenadier and that’s the one capability I do miss. I’m over it. Mostly. Other than a full u-turn, the turning radius is fine IME.
 
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The downside is Melbourne city. I really don't thin k I could cope longer than a week. Insane traffic, inane drivers.
Not to mention hook turns.
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I don't live in a dense, urban area, I just drive though a lot of them. Coming from an old LR Defender, the Grenadier is a fine urban car, the autobox making the biggest difference. I'd rather drive the Grenadier over the small manual sports cars in an urban area, (but I know I'm weird).
I live in a suburb of Chicago and use my Fieldmaster to commute to work every day! Half highway and the other half city streets. Absolutely all in the city and love it! No problems at all!
 
City driving is the best. Allows you to flex an effectively rare vehicle.

If you park in parking structures a lot.. you need to ensure the IG will fit.

A huge con of the IG for city driving - if you get unlucky ( high chance) and get a unit with very loud power steering pump whine, it will sound like utter shit, wherever you go. Sound will reflect off buildings etc. it can get utterly embarrassing
 
City driving is the best. Allows you to flex an effectively rare vehicle.

If you park in parking structures a lot.. you need to ensure the IG will fit.

A huge con of the IG for city driving - if you get unlucky ( high chance) and get a unit with very loud power steering pump whine, it will sound like utter shit, wherever you go. Sound will reflect off buildings etc. it can get utterly embarrassing
The power steering pump noise is definitely one of the worst features of city driving. Actually driving down a quiet dirt track is bad with the squealing noise too..
 
I don't think I've ever been more interested in, yet less sure of, a purchase in my life.

I live in a city, fully work from home and drive roughly 7000 miles/year.

Any thoughts from owners living and driving in dense, urban areas?
For me, it would kind of depend on the city. Since you’re in Canada - I would say Toronto or Vancouver absolutely no problem - Montreal I would not think it would be a great time. In the US - LA fine (since you never exceed 5mph in traffic), Boston a headache. The bigger the highways and surface streets, the more available the surface parking, the easier it is. I drive it in Chicago a fair bit, including downtown - not a problem. I just plan the parking garage or warn the valet about the height. I watched the valet try to do a u-turn - which was amusing. But all the other cars stay clear. In the city, it’s a very friendly “F you.” Not a Cybertruck “F you.”
 
The power steering pump noise is definitely one of the worst features of city driving. Actually driving down a quiet dirt track is bad with the squealing noise too..
Clearly you have never parked outside an outdoor cafe and had the fans keep running for 15 minutes.
I have had people ask me to turn the vehicle off many times.
 
Well, it's a bit of an unwieldy slug in the city (I go to Seattle from time to time), but I must say that it's head and shoulders better than the 23' long Ram 3500 that it replaced! If you like it the ride, well worth it.
 
No issues whatsoever driving in town. Brisbane, Gold Coast, Sunny Coast and all other regional towns. Gren is no different for me really as I have driven ute/tray backs all my life among others.
 
For me, it would kind of depend on the city. Since you’re in Canada - I would say Toronto or Vancouver absolutely no problem - Montreal I would not think it would be a great time. In the US - LA fine (since you never exceed 5mph in traffic), Boston a headache. The bigger the highways and surface streets, the more available the surface parking, the easier it is. I drive it in Chicago a fair bit, including downtown - not a problem. I just plan the parking garage or warn the valet about the height. I watched the valet try to do a u-turn - which was amusing. But all the other cars stay clear. In the city, it’s a very friendly “F you.” Not a Cybertruck “F you.”
Totally, across North America the cities get newer and less densely concentrated as you move west and south from the north east. In Boston/NYC very few garages can safely handle a stock Grenadier (forget about it if you add even a cpl of inches with a roof rack let alone taller tires) and street parking is very limited. I havent been to Australia in like 20 years but i remember Syndney and Brisbane as much closer in design/architecture LA than Boston or Manhattan.
 
Once you get comfortable with the lack of turning radius and using your mirrors it is not hard to drive around any city. I actually get pretty decent mileage in stop and go traffic due to the auto stop and appreciate not having to worry about snow/ice in any lane. The vast majority of parking garages have clearance so that has not been a problem.

Honestly, it's not hard to maneuver once you spend enough time with it. The parking garage in my building has 2 very tight turns that I have to back up about 3 feet and turn a second time to get out. I see people with full size pickups not able to exit fast enough before the automatic door closes...
 
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