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I'm likely one of those "complainers" you are talking about. I look at it a bit differently though. I'm certain Ineos monitors this forum and reads the threads... can't imagine them not being interested in what folks are saying about their product. The more vocal we get about these issues however trivial they might seem in this public setting the more likely we are to all benefit from updates down the line.
I.F. hi again. We have talked in the past. I have nothing against you at all and it’s your right to post what you want on this forum. The problem is many people (me included) just honestly get tired of the constant every post/thread complaining and being so negative on the brand. I remember a past post where you stated your first loaner Grenadier from the dealership broke down on you then you had to get a 3rd and it too was having issues. I promise I am not trying to be mean, but maybe the Grenny’s are trying to tell you something.
Dude, I’m going to kindly tell you to move along. I’ve never had a problem with any loaner as I’ve only ever had the one, and it’s the one I’m still driving. So I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. So do me a favor and stop giving me unsolicited advice. Go cuddle your grennies now.I.F. hi again. We have talked in the past. I have nothing against you at all and it’s your right to post what you want on this forum. The problem is many people (me included) just honestly get tired of the constant every post/thread complaining and being so negative on the brand. I remember a past post where you stated your first loaner Grenadier from the dealership broke down on you then you had to get a 3rd and it too was having issues. I promise I am not trying to be mean, but maybe the Grenny’s are trying to tell you something.
I don’t think it’s bullshit when others say to you if you are so miserable to sell it and move on. I have even mentioned that to you before. I had a similar issue with a specific manufacturer that I loved the car and wanted to keep it but kept having issue after issue and even with the loaner car as well. I took that as a hint from the car Gods to walk away from that brand and have never bought another one. That was my last problem child car and was years ago. So I think I did the right thing. If you look at your post history, I think you know how much you say negative stuff about the Grenadier and my perspective is that members are only saying to sell it and move on to help you get out of this funk you are in. Not everyone is trying to hurt or put you down. I would love nothing more than you to have a trouble free vehicle. I am also a realists and know tomorrow or the next day I will most likely see a new negative post from you. Good luck I.F.
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Could have swore that was you and when I commented on that before I also commended you on working with animals trying to save/help them and you sent me a PM and we talked civilly via PM’s. Maybe I’m mistaken on some or all parts, I am getting old and my memory isn’t as sharp as it used to be. Plus the damn VA has pumped so many meds into me to keep me a nice peaceful civilian that I can’t even remember what happened 2 days ago much less whenever this did or didn’t take place. So if that wasn’t you, I will be the first to apologize. HOWEVER (wish I could make this even larger), it is extremely hard to move along when I go into a thread that interest me and bam lo and behold there YOU are AGAIN talking about the SAME issues. Mr. I.F. let me let you in on a little secret, EVERY SINGLE MEMBER ON THIS FORUM KNOWS ABOUT YOUR ISSUES!! Heck, I even have had several members send me PM’s saying to just block or avoid debating with you. So apparently you love repeating yourself and yes it’s your right to do so, but it’s also my right to say I’m tired of reading that the dealership still has your Grenadier. I’m sorry about your experience, but for you not to take the numerous members giving you advise on selling it and walking away well that’s on you. I don’t think most are being mean, just trying to help. It’s like fate or karma or whatever you believe in is trying to give you a hint and you just either don’t care or blind to what’s happening. I have meet and worked along side several people like you, unfortunately life didn’t turn out in good terms for most of them. No matter what you think or the mean response posts you normally rebut people with, I mean you no harm nor do I wish you any bad luck, but your lack of self awareness or reading the room is probably the worst I have ever ran across. Ok, going now to cuddle my Grenny’s (btw no doubt you were being facetious, but the joke is on you, I really do hug and talk to my Grenny’s!!)!!
Dude, I was responding to someone with the exact same gripe I have. I’m not sure why that get people so upset. It’s not me who get my feelings all tied up in knots. I too suffer from ptsd, and trust me I know what anger is and what it isn’t. The fact so many can accept shit and like it is beyond some of us. For those of you who like to accept sub par that’s cool, I’m happy you can carry on and be happy. Some of us don’t like it. I’m fully allowed to respond and support those who agree with me. That don’t hug their trucks at night, And just want Ineos to get its act together. Did you read the comment I was responding to?Could have swore that was you and when I commented on that before I also commended you on working with animals trying to save/help them and you sent me a PM and we talked civilly via PM’s. Maybe I’m mistaken on some or all parts, I am getting old and my memory isn’t as sharp as it used to be. Plus the damn VA has pumped so many meds into me to keep me a nice peaceful civilian that I can’t even remember what happened 2 days ago much less whenever this did or didn’t take place. So if that wasn’t you, I will be the first to apologize. HOWEVER (wish I could make this even larger), it is extremely hard to move along when I go into a thread that interest me and bam lo and behold there YOU are AGAIN talking about the SAME issues. Mr. I.F. let me let you in on a little secret, EVERY SINGLE MEMBER ON THIS FORUM KNOWS ABOUT YOUR ISSUES!! Heck, I even have had several members send me PM’s saying to just block or avoid debating with you. So apparently you love repeating yourself and yes it’s your right to do so, but it’s also my right to say I’m tired of reading that the dealership still has your Grenadier. I’m sorry about your experience, but for you not to take the numerous members giving you advise on selling it and walking away well that’s on you. I don’t think most are being mean, just trying to help. It’s like fate or karma or whatever you believe in is trying to give you a hint and you just either don’t care or blind to what’s happening. I have meet and worked along side several people like you, unfortunately life didn’t turn out in good terms for most of them. No matter what you think or the mean response posts you normally rebut people with, I mean you no harm nor do I wish you any bad luck, but your lack of self awareness or reading the room is probably the worst I have ever ran across. Ok, going now to cuddle my Grenny’s (btw no doubt you were being facetious, but the joke is on you, I really do hug and talk to my Grenny’s!!)!!
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Think they would sell you the loaner?
They can't. The loaner was a MY2023 and not intended for N/A Market.I asked, they won’t
I can’t comment on why they can’t, but the internal labeling and such along with GVW stickers and identifier tags are all USA standard stuff. I do believe this is some type of test mule though as it has a bunch of interesting additional relays, Dual OBD ports, a few other diagnostic points. It’s a solid rug though, far better than mine in a lot of ways I’d say.
Got to be a test model and why they won’t let you keep it in trade. I have never owned or even seen a vehicle with dual OBD ports. I wonder why you would need 2? Factory and test ports?
The original dealer demo vehicles are MY23.75 with an odd mix of 2023 and 2024 parts and are owned by INEOS, not the dealers. They are not legal for sale to customers because they don't have all the equipment (ADAS bits primarily) that the vehicles were certified to haveGot to be a test model and why they won’t let you keep it in trade. I have never owned or even seen a vehicle with dual OBD ports. I wonder why you would need 2? Factory and test ports?
