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Advice For Seeing Better While Driving

kbdgr said:
I've found the SUMA convex mirrors Owl has available a nice upgrade. For me, the extra field of view makes a difference.

owloutdoor.com

Wide Angle Convex Mirror Upgrade

The standard side mirrors on the Grenadier and Quartermaster can leave significant blind spots, limiting your view and compromising safety. Our upgraded convex SUMA mirrors are designed to provide a much wider field of vision, effectively eliminating the blind spots created by stock mirrors...
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Thinking of getting these too. Do you or anyone reading this know are these a pop in and out type install or you have to take the mirror apart and install them? As I am typing this I am also reading my own post and realizing it’s probably not the easy way huh?! 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
(Did Google for an install video but didn’t find anything)
 
The Suma mirrors (you can find them at owl) really helps with the blindspot. A touch wider than stock. I posted a review here. I really like them.
 
parb said:
The Suma mirrors (you can find them at owl) really helps with the blindspot. A touch wider than stock. I posted a review here. I really like them.
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Did you do blue or grey? Trying to decide. The reviews/posts I have read make it sound like an easy install but I’m a visual type guy. Guess no one posted a video yet of the swap?
 
I got gray, i think its a subtle gray and it looks (and works) great even in early evenings and at night.
I took pictures of my install. much easier than it sounds like (and hopefully my pics makes it easy to see how to pop the original mirrors out).
It should take no more than 10 minutes per side at most to do.

How i did it is in the link below:

Possible Side Mirror Replacement to reduce Blind Spot - Please respond if interested

I have been in touch with Eddy from Suma Performance (thanks to @Norb-TX for bringing them up in the other thread). They make aftermarket convex side mirror replacements to reduce blind spots. This would replace the mirror only, you keep the factory housing. They also offer a version with...
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Question for those who have a Wolfbox mirror installed and are nearsighted… do you have any issues focusing on the screen if you wear your glasses while driving?

I have another vehicle with a digital mirror system and every time I glance up at the mirror (with glasses on and in rearward camera mode) from focusing on the road ahead the view is blurry because basically you are trying to focus on a screen view that is literally just inches from your eyes.

I find this causes eye strain on long trips and have to turn off the mirror camera and just go back to standard reflective mirror mode as your depth of focus is more natural. I would assume this would be the same issue with a Wolfbox as well?
 
I wear progressive eyeglasses. i can't see well near or far... post 40 i started wearing glasses full time.
I found no issues with the wolfbox. I use the part of my eyeglasses that is designed for far vision but it works really well for me.

in fact wolfbox has been a significant upgrade for me. i was warned by some people that focusing on a digital display would be different from a mirror but i found no issues in changing focus. after a day or two it was super normal to me.
 
parb said:
I wear progressive eyeglasses. i can't see well near or far... post 40 i started wearing glasses full time.
I found no issues with the wolfbox. I use the part of my eyeglasses that is designed for far vision but it works really well for me.

in fact wolfbox has been a significant upgrade for me. i was warned by some people that focusing on a digital display would be different from a mirror but i found no issues in changing focus. after a day or two it was super normal to me.
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they have a non reflective coating that can be added. i ended up using it as it killed all reflective distractions. sharpness and brightness do suffer but not to an extent that it renders the devise unusable. I also wear bifocals.
 
C-Mack said:
Question for those who have a Wolfbox mirror installed and are nearsighted… do you have any issues focusing on the screen if you wear your glasses while driving?

I have another vehicle with a digital mirror system and every time I glance up at the mirror (with glasses on and in rearward camera mode) from focusing on the road ahead the view is blurry because basically you are trying to focus on a screen view that is literally just inches from your eyes.

I find this causes eye strain on long trips and have to turn off the mirror camera and just go back to standard reflective mirror mode as your depth of focus is more natural. I would assume this would be the same issue with a Wolfbox as well?
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Same for me, but it pretty much went away after a few days. I also think putting on the anti-glare film helped. I felt like it was just reflective enough that I was seeing the back door in dark parts of the screen and it was tricking my eyes to deeper focus like a traditional mirror.

Bottom line: I've gotten used to it and I'm not going back! ;) 👓
 
Zimm said:
they have a non reflective coating that can be added. i ended up using it as it killed all reflective distractions. sharpness and brightness do suffer but not to an extent that it renders the devise unusable. I also wear bifocals.
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Never thought of this. Can you provide the name/brand of the product you used? Will probably get some myself. I don’t wear glasses myself, but think this should help anyone with reflections etc. 👍
 
Dual Grenny Guy said:
Never thought of this. Can you provide the name/brand of the product you used? Will probably get some myself. I don’t wear glasses myself, but think this should help anyone with reflections etc. 👍
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i got it off of wolfbox on amazon i think. ill check.

yep
 
Dual Grenny Guy said:
Thinking of getting these too. Do you or anyone reading this know are these a pop in and out type install or you have to take the mirror apart and install them? As I am typing this I am also reading my own post and realizing it’s probably not the easy way huh?! 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
(Did Google for an install video but didn’t find anything)
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Here is a link to Owl's installation video. I followed this and it was an easy swap for me.
View: https://youtu.be/k_i_x6RAKQE?si=owmRRdbtJz1q2IGi
 
Dual Grenny Guy said:
Did you do blue or grey? Trying to decide. The reviews/posts I have read make it sound like an easy install but I’m a visual type guy. Guess no one posted a video yet of the swap?
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I also went with the grey. I appreciate having the tint in bright sunny days after snow.
 

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The blue ones are on back order through the Owl website till late January.
 
I am 5'6", and I feel short in cars, because... I am. I boosted the rear of the seat 2-½" higher with a block in the rear. I am happy with it, so next step is to machine the block out of aluminum. I used a bolt rated at 57,000lbs. I also installed the Wolfbox which I like, and some small Amazon blind spot mirrors (double stick tape)
 

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kbdgr said:
I've found the SUMA convex mirrors Owl has available a nice upgrade. For me, the extra field of view makes a difference.

owloutdoor.com

Wide Angle Convex Mirror Upgrade

The standard side mirrors on the Grenadier and Quartermaster can leave significant blind spots, limiting your view and compromising safety. Our upgraded convex SUMA mirrors are designed to provide a much wider field of vision, effectively eliminating the blind spots created by stock mirrors...
owloutdoor.com owloutdoor.com
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Something like this should have been standard.
 
kbdgr said:
Here is a link to Owl's installation video. I followed this and it was an easy swap for me.
View: https://youtu.be/k_i_x6RAKQE?si=owmRRdbtJz1q2IGi
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I saw this video last night and rewatched today after the tequila wore off. The video really doesn't do itself any favors by not showing the improvement in visibility so for those of you that posted photos I really appreciate it.

The narrow field of vision was the only thing I didn't like about the Grenadier when I first drove it a year ago and I was really happy to see this being addressed so quickly by the aftermarket. I ordered the gray and they will be on their way here next week.
 
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I thought I would post for those looks ng for blind spot monitoring. Made for motorcycle but think it would work for anyone.

www.garmin.com

Garmin zūmo™ R1 Radar | Rearview & Blindspot Motorcycle Radar

zumo R1 Radar is a rearview and blind spot motorcycle radar with external lights, audio alerts and full-screen radar display when paired with your phone or zūmo XT2.
www.garmin.com www.garmin.com
 
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