What Rocksliders / Side Steps did you choose

Commodore · Tuesday at 7:05 PM

TCMColorado said:
The Agile sliders are unique in that they mount to the body, but in my experience with other vehicles this is a non issue. The vast majority of sliders for the Jeep Wrangler are body mounted and they are more than up to the task. Even the OEM sliders on the Wrangler Rubicon are body mounted. And unless I am mistaken the AO sliders can be removed and the vehicle returned 100% back to stock with no visible alterations.

I'm sure Agile has tested them and they work well. That said, there is likely a reason why Magna bolted the factory Grenadier sliders to the frame. When you drop the car on a rock the weight of the vehicle is then suspended by the body mounts. Those mounts are engineered for compression forces not tension forces. Again, I'm sure Agile has tested them plenty and they do build great stuff.

Both Wranglers and Broncos have factory body mounted sliders but Ford and Jeep engineered for those body mounted sliders when they designed the vehicles and Magna did not. Jeep and Bronco owners who intend to use sliders typically upgrade to a frame mounted slider.

Jiman01 · Tuesday at 7:07 PM

Is there significant difference in SS vs “normal”, I’m assuming, chromoly steel? I’ve only had experience with non-stainless sliders and steps and most of the ones I’ve seen eventually rust through. But they also take a hit and give, protecting the body.

My experience with SS in other applications is that SS tends to be harder/more brittle than chromoly.

anand · Tuesday at 7:42 PM

Jiman01 said:
Is there significant difference in SS vs “normal”, I’m assuming, chromoly steel? I’ve only had experience with non-stainless sliders and steps and most of the ones I’ve seen eventually rust through. But they also take a hit and give, protecting the body.

Give the sliders a touch up spritz of paint every year and they should last just fine

TCMColorado · Tuesday at 7:56 PM

Commodore said:
I'm sure Agile has tested them and they work well. That said, there is likely a reason why Magna bolted the factory Grenadier sliders to the frame. When you drop the car on a rock the weight of the vehicle is then suspended by the body mounts. Those mounts are engineered for compression forces not tension forces. Again, I'm sure Agile has tested them plenty and they do build great stuff.

Both Wranglers and Broncos have factory body mounted sliders but Ford and Jeep engineered for those body mounted sliders when they designed the vehicles and Magna did not. Jeep and Bronco owners who intend to use sliders typically upgrade to a frame mounted slider.

Maybe Bronco owners are using frame mounted rock sliders, but Jeep owners are definitely not and that includes aftermarket versions. I have been deeply involved in the off road Jeep industry for years and frame mounted sliders are used almost exclusively as simple steps (often called nerf bars) on that platform, not for actual rock protection. I am not arguing body mounted sliders are better only that they are completely capable of doing the job required with minimal trade offs. The beauty of the aftermarket is that there are different options for everyone. My favorite of the frame mounted sliders for the Grenadier are those made by Dissent. Just a clean OEM look without random styling elements or holes all over the place to capture dirt or shoe heels. They are nice and close to the body and have a large high traction step surface. Everything you need, nothing you don't.

alex3dworld · Tuesday at 11:49 PM

HereinDaRockies said:
How does the OEM look from above? From the side view, that tremendous gap between the bar and rocker panel has me thinking feet will fall thru and get stuck in the gap

as you can see from above there is no gap

HereinDaRockies · Wednesday at 2:11 AM

alex3dworld said:
as you can see from above there is no gap
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Your foot goes to the right a bit and it slides off right? And you end up with high ankle sprain?

alex3dworld · Wednesday at 1:25 PM

i promise you you wont sprain anything dear friend, i wear a shoe size 11 and that shoe is particularly wide. maybe the rail look skinnier than what it is. i went OEM because i love the bull bar and side protection rails that i have in mind to order. they lock with the OEM side steps.

Commodore · Friday at 1:39 AM

Huge thank you to the folks at White Knuckle Offroad for kindly rushing my slider order so I have them in time for my Utah trip (weather permitting). I ordered them last week and picked them up yesterday from their manufacturing facility. I ordered them in bare metal so I can easily touch them up with rattle can paint. These are impressively made and fit perfectly. It took about an hour this morning to paint them both including prep time. Then maybe another hour to install them late this afternoon. These are hard to beat for the money and certainly very protective.

ColoradoMike · Friday at 3:50 PM

Commodore said:
Huge thank you to the folks at White Knuckle Offroad for kindly rushing my slider order so I have them in time for my Utah trip (weather permitting). I ordered them last week and picked them up yesterday from their manufacturing facility. I ordered them in bare metal so I can easily touch them up with rattle can paint. These are impressively made and fit perfectly. It took about an hour this morning to paint them both including prep time. Then maybe another hour to install them late this afternoon. These are hard to beat for the money and certainly very protective.

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I love the look of these!

Zimm · Friday at 4:09 PM

anand said:
Give the sliders a touch up spritz of paint every year and they should last just fine

Some other idiot on here keeps giving that shitty advise.

Zimm · Friday at 4:16 PM

Commodore said:
I'm sure Agile has tested them and they work well. That said, there is likely a reason why Magna bolted the factory Grenadier sliders to the frame. When you drop the car on a rock the weight of the vehicle is then suspended by the body mounts. Those mounts are engineered for compression forces not tension forces. Again, I'm sure Agile has tested them plenty and they do build great stuff.

Both Wranglers and Broncos have factory body mounted sliders but Ford and Jeep engineered for those body mounted sliders when they designed the vehicles and Magna did not. Jeep and Bronco owners who intend to use sliders typically upgrade to a frame mounted slider.

Its suspended by the bolts that go thru the body mounts, and bolts are designed for shear or tension. I wouldn't worry about a bolt stripping its threads, and if you hit something hard enough to shift the rig noticeably off its center, you've likely been t-boned in a car accident and woke up in the er. Insurance will cover it.

Zimm · Friday at 4:33 PM

White knuckle, LFD and Agile are my contenders for base unit to work with. I looked at making something like the agile for breakover as its similar to my Gwagon but the gren lacked the ridged rocker mounting of the G and I didn't wanna get into solving that... agile used the small existing fastener locations and some additional rivnuts which I'm not a fan of, but if the slider is ridged and the load is evenly distributed to the rocker, it ought not matter. The online mounting instructions don't give me a good looksee into that or the steel spec. I wish I could see them up close to decide if I'm making much ado about nothing. . time for a phone call.

Commodore · Friday at 5:07 PM

Zimm said:
White knuckle, LFD and Agile are my contenders for base unit to work with. I looked at making something like the agile for breakover as its similar to my Gwagon but the gren lacked the ridged rocker mounting of the G and I didn't wanna get into solving that... agile used the small existing fastener locations and some additional rivnuts which I'm not a fan of, but if the slider is ridged and the load is evenly distributed to the rocker, it ought not matter. The online mounting instructions don't give me a good looksee into that or the steel spec. I wish I could see them up close to decide if I'm making much ado about nothing. . time for a phone call.

I read the instructions for the Agile sliders. The company makes good stuff so I'm sure it is fine but I'm just not a fan of body mounted sliders. No doubt that the Agile sliders improve clearance at the rocker over frame mounted sliders but the limiting factor is still the the frame which hangs far below the rocker.

Zimm · Friday at 10:17 PM

Commodore said:
I read the instructions for the Agile sliders. The company makes good stuff so I'm sure it is fine but I'm just not a fan of body mounted sliders. No doubt that the Agile sliders improve clearance at the rocker over frame mounted sliders but the limiting factor is still the the frame which hangs far below the rocker.

If one took this agile design and melded it with the Abenteurs that mysteriously leave the lower rocker exposed, we'd have a winner.

Adamc1303 · 2024-11-23T11:07:54+0000

If only rockslide engineering made one for the grenadier. I love how they retract as a true step but then mount fully under the car and act as sliders.

alex3dworld · 2024-11-23T17:25:04+0000

those look awesome! you have a green one like mine.

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