2.5" Eibach lift, Owl Rocksliders and Roof rack installed!

bikesandguitars said:

Did they mention anything about the driveshaft with the lift? Hoping they’re working on a mod.

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bikesandguitars said:

Did they mention anything about the driveshaft with the lift? Hoping they’re working on a mod.

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CrazyOldMan said:

We were all wondering a nice way to do that - but you just jumped right in and did it - no prep or prelude.

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Nevada Grenadier said:

I hope we all can handle a simple question without getting butt hurt (no lube see what I did there?). I assume most everyone here is kind of an enthusiast and are aware or common issues and problems.

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CrazyOldMan said:

I was being sarcastic - it was a fair question for you to ask a new owner

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bikesandguitars said:

I actually removed my Eibach lift before a recent off-road trip out of an abundance of caution. But I’ve seen video of other owners with lifts taking on off-road trails with no problems. I guess it’s a crap shoot… I definitely miss the lift. I liked the ride better with the lift installed.

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C-Mack said:

The aftermarket industry has always been quick to leverage the excitement and emotions of customers who want the next big thing or toys added to their rig so long as it results in a sale.

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C-Mack said:

I like your cautious minded approach… most owners would not sacrifice the look of their vehicle with a lift for an extra margin of reliability well done! I’ve installed many lifts on vehicles over the years and they all have compromises of one sort or another. If your rig is mainly for off-road then a lift and heavier rated springs for carrying an extra load make a ton of sense. Personally, I’ve got to a point where my vehicles usually end up on the road 95% of the time and I eventually got tired of the compromises in handing and ride quality so near-to-stock works best for now me but that’s just my specific use scenario currently. I guess one upside is I get to keep a little extra money in my pocket for other functional mods so it’s all good in the end.

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bikesandguitars said:

I took the un-lifted Grenadier to Moab in the spring and suffered a crushed tailpipe and some minor skid plate scrapes. No big deal. It was still a very, very capable vehicle. But another inch or two ride height would sure be nice! After that trip, I lifted my Grenadier.

I was looking forward to taking the lifted Grenadier back to Moab. ( I actually prefer the ride height and handling when it’s lifted.) I had a service appointment at the dealer the week prior to the trip to swap out engine and axle oils. While at the dealer, I found out that they had a lifted Grenadier in the shop that had suffered a broken driveshaft. Ineos had asked that the dealer send the parts back to them so they could do their own post-mortem.

In my experience with other makes and lifts, the 2.5” lift is the limit where further modifications are strongly recommended. After consulting with the Ineos service team and my local 4x4 shop, I decided that it’s best to stay at spec until both OEM and after market parts are more readily available.

However, I will say that, if YouTube is a reliable source, it appears that the 2.5” lifts are mostly reliable. I’ve communicated with a few content creators with lifted vehicles being pushed to the limits of articulation that have not reported any problems - yet.

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C-Mack said:

This thread brings up a good point though. Any shop or aftermarket vendor which keeps their customer fully informed (being honest) about the pros & cons of their modifications would be worth building a long term relationship with. Making the customer aware of likely issues such as with a suspension lift and the added driveline maintenance or wear it may create would be the responsible thing to do.

The aftermarket industry has always been quick to leverage the excitement and emotions of customers who want the next big thing or toys added to their rig so long as it results in a sale. Finding a vendor willing to work with you as a partner and is concerned about the long term well being of your project is worth taking the time to find. After all, you would think this would only work in the vendors favor as you’ll trust their expertise and make additional purchases down the road based on that trust.

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Nevada Grenadier said:

I think making customers aware of potential problems associated with modifications is good, but I dislike shops pushing "extras". I do my own research and I do not like upselling. That said Owl has been great and I have had more then a few conversations with them over the phone discussing future modifications.

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