It's arrived, but...

Reducs · Sep 19, 2024

History -

Reservation: June 9th, 2022
Ordered: June 28th, 2023
Built: December 2023
Shipped: May 28th, 2024
Arrived Georgia: ~June 8th, 2024
Arrived Dallas: Sept 16th, 2024

I looked at it yesterday, and walked away. Didn't even test drive it. When I opened the door and saw the 12/23 build date I saw red.

I knew it had set for what seemed like an eternity, and no one could tell me why, but I was thinking it was a February build. December? Really?

The only thing I can really blame the dealer for is lack of communication during the ordeal. Every time I reached out to them it seemed like I knew more than they did. They never even called to see if I was interested in one on the lot. I wouldn't have been, but shouldn't that be a standard call? They lowballed my trade in, but did make me a below sticker offer on the one I ordered. The one that sat outside in France for 5 months. The one that baked in the Georgia sun for 3 months during the peak of summer.

If I'd had a non-refundable deposit on this thing I'd be livid, instead of just frustrated and disappointed. 18 months of excitement and anticipation, followed by 9 months of Lucy pulling away the football over, and over, and over again.

I'll stop venting or it's gonna really get ugly. I still love this project, and I would order the same thing again (minus the "premium" stereo), but I don't know if I'm willing to gamble on this particular one.

I don't think I'm over reacting, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!

Trialmaster · Sep 19, 2024

I agree the delays are unnecessary. However, was the vehicle well prepared and look to be brand new? Why not take it?

DoubleDoom · Sep 19, 2024

I looked at it yesterday, and walked away. Didn't even test drive it. When I opened the door and saw the 12/23 build date I saw red. I knew it had set for what seemed like an eternity, and no one could tell me why, but I was thinking it was a February build. December? Really?

A Feb 24 build would still be MY23.5 They didn't move until MY24 until March/April. So, a Dec 23 build would be the same as a Feb 24 build.

I don't think I'm over reacting, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!

To be honest, I think you are on the basis that it was the same model year as you were expecting. If it was a different model year, then I could understand it.

terdrocket · Sep 19, 2024

DoubleDoom said:
A Feb 24 build would still be MY23.5 They didn't move until MY24 until March/April. So, a Dec 23 build would be the same as a Feb 24 build.

To be honest, I think you are on the basis that it was the same model year as you were expecting. If it was a different model year, then I could understand it.

Not true. In the US we only have 2024 models.

It's crazy that it took that long.
But... I am almost 10 months and 11k miles into ownership and I am VERY happy with mine.

Jean Mercier · Sep 19, 2024

Reducs said:
History -

Reservation: June 9th, 2022
Ordered: June 28th, 2023
Built: December 2023
Shipped: May 28th, 2024
Arrived Georgia: ~June 8th, 2024
Arrived Dallas: Sept 16th, 2024

I looked at it yesterday, and walked away. Didn't even test drive it. When I opened the door and saw the 12/23 build date I saw red. I knew it had set for what seemed like an eternity, and no one could tell me why, but I was thinking it was a February build. December? Really?

The only thing I can really blame the dealer for is lack of communication during the ordeal. Every time I reached out to them it seemed like I knew more than they did. They never even called to see if I was interested in one on the lot. I wouldn't have been, but shouldn't that be a standard call? They lowballed my trade in, but did make me a below sticker offer on the one I ordered. The one that sat outside in France for 5 months. The one that baked in the Georgia sun for 3 months during the peak of summer.

If I'd had a non-refundable deposit on this thing I'd be livid, instead of just frustrated and disappointed. 18 months of excitement and anticipation, followed by 9 months of Lucy pulling away the football over, and over, and over again.

I'll stop venting or it's gonna really get ugly. I still love this project, and I would order the same thing again (minus the "premium" stereo), but I don't know if I'm willing to gamble on this particular one.

I don't think I'm over reacting, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!

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Personally, I think - with due respect - that you are over reacting.
I agree the delivery time was very long and the communication of your dealer was awful.

When I visited the factory last year end of June, they told me that one out of x cars (I don't remember the "x") was taken aside at the end of the production line for a 100% check of everything.
Perhaps your car was one of those, and they discovered some issues to be solved. And this delayed your delivery.

But, even in that case, clear communication of Ineos would be nicer!

ADVAW8S · Sep 19, 2024

Can I have your seats for my QM?

bigleonski · Sep 19, 2024

Mine was delivered 4 months after build. Regardless of the huge timeframe from order to build and other dramas and order stuff ups, it was ready to hand over quickly when it finally was built.
So built a month before yours and I’ve been driving it since March.
If I was in your position I’d be pissed off to the max as well. I’m not saying I would walk away, but you’d hear me screaming from over here.

Reducs · Sep 19, 2024

Jean Mercier said:
When I visited the factory last year end of June, they told me that one out of x cars (I don't remember the "x") was taken aside at the end of the production line for a 100% check of everything.
Perhaps your car was one of those, and they discovered some issues to be solved. And this delayed your delivery.

But, even in that case, clear communication of Ineos would be nicer!

This crossed my mind around April or so. I reached out and was told they didn't show any hold or quality control reason for the delay. That was via email through the web interface and I don't think they're really 'in the loop', so I don't know. The dealer also said they'd inquired and were given no reason. Again, for what that's worth.

Kujo · Sep 19, 2024

You need to love the IG that you buy and to drive it away with a big ass grin on your face. This one is not for you. Buy another one. There are a lot of cars at Regal in Atlanta. I’m sure other dealers are also flush. Go pick one out and drive it home.

b58 · Sep 19, 2024

Do we have a thread where the technical differences between MY23, MY23.5, MY24 and so on are listed?

DoubleDoom · Sep 19, 2024

Not true. In the US we only have 2024 models.

No you don't. Whilst they are called MY24 in the US, they are actually MY23.5. The factory didn't move to MY24 until March or April 24. Some of the US MY24s were built in late Spring/Early summer 2023.

DaveB · Sep 19, 2024

DoubleDoom said:
A Feb 24 build would still be MY23.5 They didn't move until MY24 until March/April. So, a Dec 23 build would be the same as a Feb 24 build.

To be honest, I think you are on the basis that it was the same model year as you were expecting. If it was a different model year, then I could understand it.

I think it is more the "sitting around" that he is concerned with.
I received a new Mitsubishi some years ago that had been built months before and it needed the discs replaced due to rust (they wanted to machine them), No oil circulating in the engine, gearbox, diff for that long was also a concern.
It was only a company car so not so much of a concern for me.

Shopkeep · Sep 19, 2024

Over reacting.

DaveB · Sep 19, 2024

DoubleDoom said:
No you don't. Whilst they are called MY24 in the US, they are actually MY23.5. The factory didn't move to MY24 until March or April 24. Some of the US MY24s were built in late Spring/Early summer 2023.

I love the way people use seasons rather than months.
I can understand it for the fashion or travel industries but not vehicles.
Not complaining just amused.
When you say late spring early summer I read November December

Logsplitter · Sep 19, 2024

DaveB said:
I love the way people use seasons rather than months.
I can understand it for the fashion or travel industries but not vehicles.
Not complaining just amused.
When you say late spring early summer I read November December

. Good point.

dreamalaska · Sep 20, 2024

Lot Rot is a real thing. Google it.

C64_forever · Sep 21, 2024

Reducs said:
History -

Reservation: June 9th, 2022
Ordered: June 28th, 2023
Built: December 2023
Shipped: May 28th, 2024
Arrived Georgia: ~June 8th, 2024
Arrived Dallas: Sept 16th, 2024

I looked at it yesterday, and walked away. Didn't even test drive it. When I opened the door and saw the 12/23 build date I saw red. I knew it had set for what seemed like an eternity, and no one could tell me why, but I was thinking it was a February build. December? Really?

The only thing I can really blame the dealer for is lack of communication during the ordeal. Every time I reached out to them it seemed like I knew more than they did. They never even called to see if I was interested in one on the lot. I wouldn't have been, but shouldn't that be a standard call? They lowballed my trade in, but did make me a below sticker offer on the one I ordered. The one that sat outside in France for 5 months. The one that baked in the Georgia sun for 3 months during the peak of summer.

If I'd had a non-refundable deposit on this thing I'd be livid, instead of just frustrated and disappointed. 18 months of excitement and anticipation, followed by 9 months of Lucy pulling away the football over, and over, and over again.

I'll stop venting or it's gonna really get ugly. I still love this project, and I would order the same thing again (minus the "premium" stereo), but I don't know if I'm willing to gamble on this particular one.

I don't think I'm over reacting, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!

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So you made go back and look at my production date. It is 11/23, and I got it in April 24. So not quite as long as yours but also I would not think as much as you did about it. FWIW mine is same color and absolutely love it.

Reducs · Sep 29, 2024

I took a week to reassess and think about it. This is what I ordered. This is what I wanted. This is what I drove home today.

There really is nothing else like it on the road.

bikesandguitars · Sep 29, 2024

I love the Sela Green. If I buy the QM, that’s my color.

As Tom Petty famously said, “The waiting is the hardest part.”

trobex · Sep 29, 2024

All RHD models still have the big 2L carton sitting under your left foot when you drive... so yeah over reacting residual given the US (and other LHD) model is the best one for comfort!

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