Steering stabilizer bar

grnamin · Apr 26, 2024

CrazyOldMan said:
The rest of us will virtually stand around drinking beer and offering advice - one guy working, 10,000 commenting. Man law.

Should we live stream?

Stu_Barnes · Apr 26, 2024

grnamin said:
Pre-ordered on April 17. Shipped today. Arriving Tuesday next week. Hopefully will report on first-hand experience by Wednesday.

if you would try and get a feel for the steering as designed, then without a stabilizer at all and then with the Fox unit that would be a good comparable I think.

But I know that time dictates these things so don't worry if you can't, the main thing is you get the vehicle that you want to your spec. At least thats how I see things.....

CrazyOldMan · Apr 26, 2024

grnamin said:
Should we live stream?

But we all need to be simultaneously explaining how you should be doing it. All 10,000.

MTNDOG · Apr 26, 2024

Post in thread 'Steering and Poor Stability' https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/steering-and-poor-stability.12414178/post-1333270021

Some discussion here as well

CrazyOldMan · Apr 26, 2024

crashnburn said:
Noticed you are in WI.
I was up at Williams Bay last weekend. Whereabouts are you?
Drove from IL NW suburbs and steering wasn't bad, or maybe I was just taking my time cruising...

Oof - probably drove right past you - was at Knauz yesterday getting my hitch receiver and then drove back to Madtown

grnamin · Apr 30, 2024

I tried to remove the bolt that's screwed into the welded-in-place nut first, but it won't budge, even with my legs braced onto the driver side wheel. Might have some thread lock in it. I don't want to strip the threads. Should I heat it up carefully with a torch? No access to a lift so it's all ground work for me.

anand · May 1, 2024

grnamin said:
I tried to remove the bolt that's screwed into the welded-in-place nut first, but it won't budge, even with my legs braced onto the driver side wheel. Might have some thread lock in it. I don't want to strip the threads. Should I heat it up carefully with a torch? No access to a lift so it's all ground work for me.

1/2" cordless impact could be your best friend for this job...

grnamin · May 1, 2024

anand said:
1/2" cordless impact could be your best friend for this job...

Will try this.

Clark Kent · May 1, 2024

grnamin said:
I tried to remove the bolt that's screwed into the welded-in-place nut first, but it won't budge, even with my legs braced onto the driver side wheel. Might have some thread lock in it. I don't want to strip the threads. Should I heat it up carefully with a torch? No access to a lift so it's all ground work for me.

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35 ft-lbs input for 12,000 ft-lbs output. Yessir, that's almost as much torque as my favourite mother-in-law produces on a slow day.
100% inappropriate for this task, but the tool is too good not to share at every opportunity. Some clever USA manufacturing.

rur42 · May 1, 2024

I was just at the dealer two days ago for a test drive. Drove the stock vehicle, with the stock steering. I thought it was fine, a little annoying at first, but not much different from other vehicles I've driven. I'd get used to it... but I also drove one that the dealer told me had an Old Man Emu steering stabilizer installed. It was much nicer, returned to center was much improved and I felt I could drive it single handed, if I had to. It was just a short test drive, but just based on that experience it's now high on my list of "mods". Not that I really absolutely dislike the default steering, but the Emu stabilizer felt more like what I was expecting (coming from a Wrangler JK). Have no idea how it behaves off road. The dealer did mention that they've also installed Fox stabilizers, but he thought the Emu one was the better of the two.

grnamin · May 1, 2024

Bolt still wouldn't budge with cordless impact drill. It did with a longer handle ratchet wrench. Maybe the cordless loosened it a little bit. Proceeding with removing the OEM stabilizer.

Logsplitter · May 1, 2024

Good job with longer socket handle. You’ll never budge bolts like that with a 1/4” impact driver.
I’m in the market for a 1/2” impact wrench as I’ve struggled with some nuts and bolts on the Grenadier. I had a 900mm bar on my socket wrench and could not budge the fixings on the tow hook.
Probably going with Makita to match my other kit.

grnamin · May 1, 2024

...and she's off. Instructions called for two 21mm sockets, but it seems both driver and passenger side nuts are welded into place.

grnamin · May 1, 2024

Driver's side bolt partially screwed in. Just need to tighten it. Hardest part is blindly aiming (oxymoron) the bolt into the nut while aligning the second washer. Would be much easier if vehicle was on a lift.

Zimm · May 1, 2024

grnamin said:
Bolt still wouldn't budge with cordless impact drill. It did with a longer handle ratchet wrench. Maybe the cordless loosened it a little bit. Proceeding with removing the OEM stabilizer.

That 1/4" likely in inch pounds not foot pounds. Pick up a Milwaukee 1/2" for resi use if it's in the budget. You'll love it next tire rotation.

grnamin · May 1, 2024

Done! All that's left is the test drive. No red Loctite yet just in case I need to remove it. Will have comparison video up later.

Logsplitter · May 1, 2024

grnamin said:
Done! All that's left is the test drive. No red Loctite yet just in case I need to remove it. Will have comparison video up later.
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That rubber boot/ gaiter looks like it could be vulnerable to damage.
Looking forward to your thoughts and findings

grnamin · May 1, 2024

grenadierguy · May 1, 2024

grnamin said:

Nicely done, appreciate the video. Best information I have seen about this!

grnamin · May 1, 2024

Thank you!

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