Europe European recall on steering

Jean Mercier · Mar 9, 2024

I was informed by another Grenadier owner of this:

Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

ec.europa.eu

Could it be the same recall as the North American one? Or is this different?

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V903-6400.PDF

The description is different!

[ Adam ] · Mar 9, 2024

Jean Mercier said:
I was informed by another Grenadier owner of this:

Safety Gate: the EU rapid alert system for dangerous non-food products

ec.europa.eu

View attachment 7847339

Could it be the same recall as the North American one? Or is this different?

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2023/RCLRPT-23V903-6400.PDF

The description is different!

seems quite different to me

Shaky · Mar 9, 2024

Oh dear, surely this should be all European countries at least. I don’t think for one minute there is any difference on specs per country for steering.

Tazzieman · Mar 9, 2024

Everbody get down and check your nuts.
It's no laughing matter.

Grey Wolf · Mar 9, 2024

So does this refer to the joint that is particularly covered by the rubber boot? Also does this recall include the UK or is it just the EU

ORSO · Mar 9, 2024

From the attachment I don't understand what the specific problem is

Tazzieman · Mar 9, 2024

I would imagine it's the same as the NA recall requiring replacement of non locking with locking nuts.

"In early December 2023, INEOS became aware of reports involving two vehicles with loose steering rods observed. Separately, INEOS received a report related to a vehicle with a lost drag link during off-road driving. INEOS initiated an investigation which included an inspection of internal fleet vehicles. This inspectionrevealed one vehicle in which was installed a non-locking nut instead of a locking nut at the steering rod balljoint. INEOS then conducted an analysis of the screwing curves of vehicles with the locking vs. non-locking nut.Even though the non-locking nut had been torqued to the appropriate value, there was a potential for the nonlocking nut to loosen over time"

Tinerfeño · Mar 9, 2024

The wording "stub axle" is ridiculous

AWo · Mar 10, 2024

I would be interested what they call a locking nut

Many people think a nut with a rubber is a locking nut, but that is not the case. By using the wrong torque or if it is exposed to liquids or vibrations it still can get loose. The rubber only prevents that you lose the nut and after that more....The rubber gives time to recognize the problem without everything falling apart. A locking nut can't move, because it is secured by a sapwood or something similiar which prevents that the nut turns.

AWo

Tazzieman · Mar 10, 2024

Balljoints used to come with castle nuts and split pins but it seems the plasticised locknuts are these days more the norm. Well that's my experience.

IGL · Mar 10, 2024

Tazzieman said:
Everbody get down and check your nuts.
It's no laughing matter.

i found double double nuts. Hope that's good.

AWo · Mar 10, 2024

That is not the steering but the coupling rods of the stabilizer....looks like a nice, professional solution to use two flange nuts....

AWo

255/85 · Mar 12, 2024

AWo said:
That is not the steering but the coupling rods of the stabilizer....looks like a nice, professional solution to use two flange nuts....

AWo

Sarcasm maybe?

Not ideal but at least there's an improvement over a single nut. Looks like the installer grabbed whatever was convenient.

This has been posted before...

The Use of Two Nuts to Prevent Self Loosening of Fasteners

Trialmaster · Mar 12, 2024

This recall is months old. Don't panic anyone.

Shrooman · Mar 12, 2024

My UK spec Grenadier (delivered Summer 2023) has started making a creak/clunk from the steering column when changing suspension load. For example stopping straight line, then giving steering input as I accelerate while turning at an intersection. I’ve not been told by the company that my vehicle is recalled. Should I be concerned? Dealer is a long way from me.

BlackforrestGrenadier · Mar 13, 2024

Shrooman said:
My UK spec Grenadier (delivered Summer 2023) has started

Is it similar to this noise?
Get some parts changed out by the dealer now.

Shrooman said:
making a creak/clunk from the steering column when changing suspension load. For example stopping straight line, then giving steering input as I accelerate while turning at an intersection. I’ve not been told by the company that my vehicle is recalled. Should I be concerned? Dealer is a long way from me.

Mohs 9 · Apr 25, 2024

Today the recall letter from Ineos arrived. I should contact a dealer/workshop ASAP. Done. But they do not have instructions from Ineos yet on how to fix it.

Shrooman · May 15, 2024

BlackforrestGrenadier said:
Is it similar to this noise?
Get some parts changed out by the dealer now. View attachment 7848056

It's exactly that sound. What was the issue? I've got quite a drive to get to the dealer.

trobex · May 16, 2024

Did anyone is Aus get a recall letter or phone call?

Deepblue · May 16, 2024

OP

AWo said:
I would be interested what they call a locking nut

Many people think a nut with a rubber is a locking nut, but that is not the case. By using the wrong torque or if it is exposed to liquids or vibrations it still can get loose. The rubber only prevents that you lose the nut and after that more....The rubber gives time to recognize the problem without everything falling apart. A locking nut can't move, because it is secured by a sapwood or something similiar which prevents that the nut turns.

AWo

Hi, so far I only new the “rubber locking nuts”. Let me share in layman’s words what I learned recently

Had received a recall letter reg potential wrong nuts at steering. So had my Grenadier at the dealer for checking and service in April.
Dealer showed me two nuts: the “wrong” that might lead to security issues and the locking nut that must be used.
Have learned that such locking nut is compressed slightly before installation. So it’s a slight ellipse instead of a circle.
As the height of the two models is different dealer can easily check which one is used.

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