Steering bump/knock

ECrider · Dec 10, 2023

Has anyone come across a knocking sound when turning the steering wheel.

Happened rarely before but now it's permanent when turning a half rotation either to the left or right and many more when lock to lock.

Difficult to describe so will try video it. It's like the steering column is hitting something.

I did put the car through its paces offroad on Friday and yesterday so may have buggered something up.

rovie · Dec 10, 2023

ECrider said:
Has anyone come across a knocking sound when turning the steering wheel.

Happened rarely before but now it's permanent when turning a half rotation either to the left or right and many more when lock to lock.

Difficult to describe so will try video it. It's like the steering column is hitting something.

I did put the car through its paces offroad on Friday and yesterday so may have buggered something up.

I haven't noticed anything like that so far. I'll wait for your video.

inky_black · Dec 10, 2023

I had the problem, it was a defective ball bearing in the steering column. Directly on the passage through the board wall from the driver's seat towards the engine. The steering column was completely replaced by my agent. Since then the problem has been resolved.

bemax · Dec 10, 2023

I remember that @Jean Mercier wrote about a “bell” sound.

Bell sound when bouncing on something

Wondering if everybody has this sound. Speed isn't important, it is the importance of the bouncing, I had it at lower speeds too. YouTube video here. I think it is the stabilisation stuff (don't know the technical name) in front of the car, View: https://youtu.be/LpcKlzz9-xs?feature=shared

www.theineosforum.com

Is this similar?

ECrider · Dec 10, 2023

inky_black said:
I had the problem, it was a defective ball bearing in the steering column. Directly on the passage through the board wall from the driver's seat towards the engine. The steering column was completely replaced by my agent. Since then the problem has been resolved.

Thank you Inky, appreciated. Will investigate with agent.

DaBull · Dec 10, 2023

ECrider said:
Has anyone come across a knocking sound when turning the steering wheel.

Happened rarely before but now it's permanent when turning a half rotation either to the left or right and many more when lock to lock.

Difficult to describe so will try video it. It's like the steering column is hitting something.

I did put the car through its paces offroad on Friday and yesterday so may have buggered something up.

HI ECrider, @Owain posted this about a fix for his thump knocking sound in his steering wheel. DaBull
https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...d-petrol-trialmaster.12412483/post-1333235495

ECrider · Dec 10, 2023

DaBull said:
HI ECrider, @Owain posted this about a fix for his thump knocking sound in his steering wheel. DaBull
https://www.theineosforum.com/threa...d-petrol-trialmaster.12412483/post-1333235495

Tks pal

JOB · Dec 11, 2023

inky_black said:
I had the problem, it was a defective ball bearing in the steering column. Directly on the passage through the board wall from the driver's seat towards the engine. The steering column was completely replaced by my agent. Since then the problem has been resolved.

Exactly the same problem with ours. Began to manifest itself at roughly 3k miles, steering column replaced at 5900miles when the clunk had become much more persistent.

The loan car I currently have use of also has the start of a mild clunking sound - has done 2400miles.

Seems a common issue!

ECrider · Dec 11, 2023

JOB said:
Exactly the same problem with ours. Began to manifest itself at roughly 3k miles, steering column replaced at 5900miles when the clunk had become much more persistent.

The loan car I currently have use of also has the start of a mild clunking sound - has done 2400miles.

Seems a common issue!

thank you JOB for the reply. Will add to my snag list for the agent

Logsplitter · Dec 11, 2023

I have got a clunking noise with my drag link now when axle articulating and steering is turned especially . I can replicate this by leaning under the vehicle and twisting the drag link by hand to cause the drag link to steering ball joint to make the noise. Nothing loose just doesn’t sound right.
I took an 8second video but file too large to upload.

DaBull · Dec 11, 2023

Logsplitter said:
I have got a clunking noise with my drag link now when axle articulating and steering is turned especially . I can replicate this by leaning under the vehicle and twisting the drag link by hand to cause the drag link to steering ball joint to make the noise. Nothing loose just doesn’t sound right.
I took an 8second video but file too large to upload. View attachment 7835520

Hi Logsplitter, It looks like part of the drag link knuckle cap has broken off unless that is the design of it. DaBull

Omnivorax · Jan 2, 2024

inky_black said:
I had the problem, it was a defective ball bearing in the steering column. Directly on the passage through the board wall from the driver's seat towards the engine. The steering column was completely replaced by my agent. Since then the problem has been resolved.

Hello Inky_black, had the same problem. In german I would rather describe it as "Knacken" with slight vibrations felt along the steering wheel, when turning. In my case it happened primarily while driving, not during parking maneuvers. Had the car checked by the agent - also for different other problems. They told me to have disassembled the whole steering and found nothing...?! In the first weeks after that the noise was gone. Now it returned. Not as intense as before, but it's back. Could you give me some more detailed informations what exactly was the cause and fault and what had to be replaced?
Thank you!

inky_black · Jan 2, 2024

Omnivorax said:
Hello Inky_black, had the same problem. In german I would rather describe it as "Knacken" with slight vibrations felt along the steering wheel, when turning. In my case it happened primarily while driving, not during parking maneuvers. Had the car checked by the agent - also for different other problems. They told me to have disassembled the whole steering and found nothing...?! In the first weeks after that the noise was gone. Now it returned. Not as intense as before, but it's back. Could you give me some more detailed informations what exactly was the cause and fault and what had to be replaced?
Thank you!

Hi @Omnivorax in my case it was a defective bearing which is contained in the steering column. And it was the bearing that comes first on the side wall (Spritzwand/Bordwand) bushing. Which is why the cracking is also transferred to the side wall and thus the interior. The universal joints of the steering column were not affected, as far as I know these are two pieces that can be seen in the engine compartment, the first assumption was that the noise was coming from the universal joints. The steering column with height adjustment is installed in the interior and the steering wheel is attached to it. My Agent has replaced the entire steering column. After removal, rusty spots were also visible on the bearing. They sent the steering column in for a detailed fault analysis. Since it was replaced, I no longer have any cracking noise when steering. It also cracked when I was driving, especially when I steered to the left, but it was quieter when I steered to the right.
Best regards inky_black

Omnivorax · Jan 9, 2024

Hello Inky_Black thank you very much for the detailed informations. I now have an appointment with my dealer next week to have the problem checked. And hopefully solved......

LWA55DAL · Jun 14, 2024

Logsplitter said:
I have got a clunking noise with my drag link now when axle articulating and steering is turned especially . I can replicate this by leaning under the vehicle and twisting the drag link by hand to cause the drag link to steering ball joint to make the noise. Nothing loose just doesn’t sound right.
I took an 8second video but file too large to upload. View attachment 7835520

So today I took my Grenadier into a local shop to get the alignment done as it was pulling to the left and the steering wheel was not centered. We got the alignment done’, but when trying to get the steering wheel centered we notice that there was a popping noice in BOTH of the ball joints on the drag link and a good amount of “play” in both ball joints. This appears to be a clear defect as there was another Grenadier in the same shop having a lift kit installed so we were able to compare the performance and it didn’t have any play. I can’t attach the video that I took but when you move you rock the steering wheel you can see the joint moving up and down and popping. I sent the video to the dealer and they said they have not seen this before, but guess it means that I am going to get new ball joints or an entirely new drag link.

LWA55DAL · Jun 14, 2024

LWA55DAL said:
So today I took my Grenadier into a local shop to get the alignment done as it was pulling to the left and the steering wheel was not centered. We got the alignment done’, but when trying to get the steering wheel centered we notice that there was a popping noice in BOTH of the ball joints on the drag link and a good amount of “play” in both ball joints. This appears to be a clear defect as there was another Grenadier in the same shop having a lift kit installed so we were able to compare the performance and it didn’t have any play. I can’t attach the video that I took but when you move you rock the steering wheel you can see the joint moving up and down and popping. I sent the video to the dealer and they said they have not seen this before, but guess it means that I am going to get new ball joints or an entirely new drag link.

I just confirmed with the dealer that the ball joints are NOT sold separately and you can only buy the entire drag link for $780.

minidok · Jun 30, 2024

LWA55DAL said:
I just confirmed with the dealer that the ball joints are NOT sold separately and you can only buy the entire drag link for $780.

Warranty claim?

LWA55DAL · Jul 1, 2024

Yes, but since I am in San Antonio I don’t have any plans to make it to the dealer in the near future. When and if I need to do something with the deal, likely a software upgrade will be the motivation, I will show them the video.

Trialmaster · Jul 1, 2024

Logsplitter said:
I have got a clunking noise with my drag link now when axle articulating and steering is turned especially . I can replicate this by leaning under the vehicle and twisting the drag link by hand to cause the drag link to steering ball joint to make the noise. Nothing loose just doesn’t sound right.
I took an 8second video but file too large to upload. View attachment 7835520

I can relate to this clunk. Just turn the bar by hand that connects both Track Rod ends (Ball Joints) and it goes away. Not heard mine for a while, but will report when next in Chandlers.

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