Rear Seat Adjustment - moving my 5 Seater Commercial (UK) rear seat to Field/Trialmaster position.

kellysHeros said:

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

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DaBull said:

Hi Kellysheros, Great details. Because of the rather upright rear seat back in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster versions, I was wondering if anyone has thought of or found a way to slant the rear seat top back 25.4mm or 1". It would make for a more comfortable seating position for rear passengers. If so, post details and thoughts. DaBull

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MrMike said:

There is unfortunately no way at the moment to recline the rear seats further because of the latching points at the top of the seats.

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kellysHeros said:

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

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DaBull said:

Hi Kellysheros, Great details. Because of the rather upright rear seat back in the Fieldmaster and Trialmaster versions, I was wondering if anyone has thought of or found a way to slant the rear seat top back 25.4mm or 1". It would make for a more comfortable seating position for rear passengers. If so, post details and thoughts. DaBull

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Jeremy996 said:

I think the system may have stripped some of your photographs, (or I am technically challenged?)

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kellysHeros said:

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

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kellysHeros said:

Disappointed with the legroom in the 5 Seater Commercial (UK) Grenadier. No problem, simply move the rear seat to match the location of the Trial and Fieldmaster. Passengers wont only benefit from greater leg room, but will also enjoy the more reclined rake of the seat back.

Time required: The whole job took no more than 2 hours.
Kit required: Small Phillips screwdriver / Security Torx socket / Smaller standard Torx socket / Rachet and extension bar

Step 1 - Remove caged bulkhead from the rear load space. Pic 1 shows the top fixing mount in the headlining (Torx bolt) and the bottom fixing mount (Torx bolt), just behind the seatback retaining bracket. Pic 2 shows the mounts with caged bulkhead removed.

Step 2 - Remove the additional trim cover plates as shown in Pic 3. These trims are held in place by 5 x plastic press clips. Use the small Philips screwdriver to release the clips. Clips can be seen in Pic 4

Step 3 - Remove, both the rear seatback retaining mount and caged bulkhead mount (both sides), shown in Pic 5

Step 4 - Remove the rear seat bottom trim as seen in Pic 6. Pics 7 & 8 show the torx bolts under the trim panel. These torx bolts will also need removing (Zoom in on pics for detail)

Step 5 - Go around to the side of the car and remove the rear seat leg mount trims, shown in Pic 9 (this is held in place by the top 2 x clips and a centre plastic press clip. The top two clips simply ease out however, the centre clip is the same used on the additional trim removed in Step 2. Once the trims are removed, remove the mounting bolts as seen in Pic 10. Repeat on other side.

Step 6 - Remove the centre seat base mount bolts and the second dark grey (non security torx) bolts also. You can identify both sets of bolts clearly in Pic 11 & 12. Pic 13 shows both sets of bolts removed.

Step 7 - As mentioned in Step 4, remove the torx bolts from the backrest base as shown in Pics 14, 15, 16 & 17. Refit the additional bolts (second/spare set) into the threads the backrest was originally bolted too. Then using the original backrest bolts, position and tighten in the second set of threads. These are the thread sets that are positioned the furthest to the rear of the vehicle and had the additional/spare bolts secured in them. Seen in Pic 18 & 19.

Step 8 - Refit the backrest mounting bracket to the two threads marked M1 or the furthest set to the rear of the vehicle, see Pic 20. Interestingly, I noted these mounts were originally positioned in a location stamped N1 and wonder if this is deliberate to match its N1 Commercial classification. Note, you wont be using the bracket that was used as the bottom mount for the bulkhead. This can be seen in Pic 21. Pic 22 shows the backrest mount in place with the trim refitted. I also used some rubber bungs to fill in the previously used holes, for a more complete finish.

Step 9 - Secure the seat base mount to the new fixings, using the original security torx. Use the second grey set of bolts to fill the previously used threads. Both seen in Pics 23 & 24

Step 10 - Now the seat is in its new position, Secure the seat base legs in the new position. Seen in Pic 25 & 26. Refit leg trim as seen in Pic 27

Step 11 - Refit seat back trim as seen in Pic 28 & 29

Step 12 - Pat yourself on the back for a job well done. Seen in Pic 30

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SBA said:

Looks like you made a good job I have the commercial as well how much extra did it give you

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SBA said:

Looks like you made a good job I have the commercial as well how much extra did it give you

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Woodstove said:

Hi Kelly
Appreciate your helpful pictures and text regarding moving the seat back. What about the dog guard - does that need a special bracket making? My Gren has just arrived at the dealership, and comes with the guard that is about a foot tall.
Thanks

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DaBull said:

The rear seat backs in the Grenadier are rather upright. I was hoping someone would come up with an easy solution to allow them
to slant back a bit farther at the top. I was searching Ebay last night and came across these aftermarket brackets that look
very well made. It looks like installation if fairly easy too. Once installed they allow the seat backs to slant 2" or 50mm further back
which should make the back seats much more comfortable for passengers or should you end up in the back seat one day.
I ordered a pair of the brackets and once I get my Grenadier in April I will install them.
Please see the link to the product below. You can also simply type in the search bar in Ebay
Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Fits Ineos Grenadier
to find others offering the same brackets. DaBull

Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Passend Für Ineos Grenadier 2020-2024 | eBay

Fit For Ineos Grenadier 2022-2024. Am 11.12.2023 hat der Verkäufer die folgenden Angaben hinzugefügt The original second row seats are too vertical. Our product can adjust the angle of the second row seats.

www.ebay.com

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DaBull said:

The rear seat backs in the Grenadier are rather upright. I was hoping someone would come up with an easy solution to allow them
to slant back a bit farther at the top. I was searching Ebay last night and came across these aftermarket brackets that look
very well made. It looks like installation if fairly easy too. Once installed they allow the seat backs to slant 2" or 50mm further back
which should make the back seats much more comfortable for passengers or should you end up in the back seat one day.
I ordered a pair of the brackets and once I get my Grenadier in April I will install them.
Please see the link to the product below. You can also simply type in the search bar in Ebay
Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Fits Ineos Grenadier
to find others offering the same brackets. DaBull

Rear Seat Backrest Adjustment Bracket Passend Für Ineos Grenadier 2020-2024 | eBay

Fit For Ineos Grenadier 2022-2024. Am 11.12.2023 hat der Verkäufer die folgenden Angaben hinzugefügt The original second row seats are too vertical. Our product can adjust the angle of the second row seats.

www.ebay.com

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