Removing door panels/ color of the speaker wires

Eric.S. · Jun 26, 2023

Hello everyone

Small question, has anyone already tried to dismantle the door panel or do you know what colours the cables from the speakers have? I would like to improve my sound system a little, I find the originals terrible... In the B column you would also have to get to the cables without dismantling the door panel? I just want to install a mini subwoofer under the driver's seat, the space should be enough

If this question has already been asked, I apologise

anand · Aug 30, 2023

@ChaosDogg I haven't take a front off, but from what I recall the rear door panels attach basically the same way, and then a number of clips (aka a good yank); hopefully someone can be of more assistance

On the other hand, it's good to know that there's someone else who plans on ripping the door panels off that soon after delivery!

ChaosDogg · Aug 30, 2023

anand said:
@ChaosDogg I haven't take a front off, but from what I recall the rear door panels attach basically the same way, and then a number of clips (aka a good yank); hopefully someone can be of more assistance

On the other hand, it's good to know that there's someone else who plans on ripping the door panels off that soon after delivery!

I figured it out - pics coming soon!

ChaosDogg · Aug 30, 2023

Front door panel has 5 screws - the 3 I mentioned earlier, and 2 extra hidden under this piece of trim that is only held together by clips:

Front speaker looks like a 6" - on the photo I'm measuring from screw to screw:

ChaosDogg · Aug 30, 2023

Rear door is similar. There is 1 bolt under the handle and 1 bolt on the bottom as per the front door, but there are 3 hidden screws under the trim:

The trim that needs to be pulled out:

Rear speaker seems to be a 4":

And finally the clips that we'll all probably need to get some spares of:

bigleonski · Aug 30, 2023

ChaosDogg said:
Apologies about digging up this thread again, but has anyone actually taken the door panels off yet? Looking to replace the speakers and would like to have a look before ordering anything.
For the front driver side I've found 3 bolts so far - 1 inside the interior door handle, one underneath and one the edge. Can't seem to see any more but its not lifting off that easily and am a bit wary or ripping anything out accidentally on a car that's been in my possession for less than 24 hours....

Keen to see what you put in there @ChaosDogg - I'm thinking Focals, but what's under there and what will fit is an unknown.

DCPU · Aug 30, 2023

ChaosDogg said:
And finally the clips that we'll all probably need to get some spares of:
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Anyone got a good source for these? Are they just the one size?

ChaosDogg · Aug 30, 2023

bigleonski said:
Keen to see what you put in there @ChaosDogg - I'm thinking Focals, but what's under there and what will fit is an unknown.

Currently thinking of these for the rear:

https://www.streetsoundvision.com.au/focal-pc-100-performance-4-2-way-coaxial

And trying to decide between these two (budget being the only issue!):

Focal ES 165 K 6½" Two-Way Component Kit 65 mm (6½”) woofers and 20 mm TKM tweeters

The Focal ES 165 K is composed of two 165 mm (6½”) woofers and two 20 mm TKM tweeters. The K2 Power Kevlar® cones used for the speaker drivers of the ES 165 K component kit deliver extremely dynamic sound and perfect definition.

www.streetsoundvision.com.au

Focal PS 165 V1 6.5″ 2-WAY COMPONENT | STREET SOUND & VISION

Focal PS 165 V1 6.5″ 2-WAY COMPONENT The Focal PC 165 V1 6.5″ 2-way coaxial speakers feature Partial horn loading of the tweeter and high sensitivity to ensure dynamics and neutrality even off high powered factory stereo systems.

www.streetsoundvision.com.au

Looking at the tech specs of those it looks both 6.5" would fit (156cm diameter if I'm reading it right).

Will add an underseat sub as well I reckon while I'm at it.

acwiltshire · Aug 30, 2023

grenadierguy said:
Where was it fitted on the exterior? I heard the factory one is not centered and it can be slightly difficult to use. Thanks.

Interior

dannypalm · Nov 13, 2023

ChaosDogg said:
Currently thinking of these for the rear:

https://www.streetsoundvision.com.au/focal-pc-100-performance-4-2-way-coaxial

And trying to decide between these two (budget being the only issue!):

Focal ES 165 K 6½" Two-Way Component Kit 65 mm (6½”) woofers and 20 mm TKM tweeters

The Focal ES 165 K is composed of two 165 mm (6½”) woofers and two 20 mm TKM tweeters. The K2 Power Kevlar® cones used for the speaker drivers of the ES 165 K component kit deliver extremely dynamic sound and perfect definition.

www.streetsoundvision.com.au

Focal PS 165 V1 6.5″ 2-WAY COMPONENT | STREET SOUND & VISION

Focal PS 165 V1 6.5″ 2-WAY COMPONENT The Focal PC 165 V1 6.5″ 2-way coaxial speakers feature Partial horn loading of the tweeter and high sensitivity to ensure dynamics and neutrality even off high powered factory stereo systems.

www.streetsoundvision.com.au

Looking at the tech specs of those it looks both 6.5" would fit (156cm diameter if I'm reading it right).

Will add an underseat sub as well I reckon while I'm at it.

I'm new to this forum and I have been searching for information about a speaker upgrade. I'm pretty keen on the Focal speakers suggested above. Do you know if there is a requirement for an amp to replace the integrated amp currently in the vehicle?

ChaosDogg · Nov 13, 2023

dannypalm said:
I'm new to this forum and I have been searching for information about a speaker upgrade. I'm pretty keen on the Focal speakers suggested above. Do you know if there is a requirement for an amp to replace the integrated amp currently in the vehicle?

I got the 165Ks in the end, haven't installed them fully yet though. They did need a little bit of hacksaw work to fit them in as the supports around the edge of the speaker stick out more than the stock ones.

To answer your original question though, I did get an aftermarket amp.

dannypalm · Nov 14, 2023

Great thanks

ChaosDogg · Nov 28, 2023

I finally finished up with the audio upgrade. In the end I went with the Focal ES 165Ks for the Fronts and the Focal PC 100 4"s for the Rears.
Photos attached, but they both needed a bit of hacksaw work to get in as the frame of the Focals stick out more than the stocks. Once they're in though, it's all pretty solid.

DaBull · Nov 28, 2023

ChaosDogg said:
I finally finished up with the audio upgrade. In the end I went with the Focal ES 165Ks for the Fronts and the Focal PC 100 4"s for the Rears.
Photos attached, but they both needed a bit of hacksaw work to get in as the frame of the Focals stick out more than the stocks. Once they're in though, it's all pretty solid.
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Hi ChaosDogg, Impressive install. Couple questions?
1 - Have you had a chance to hear the new sound quality yet and if so what are your thoughts.
2 - Did you install any tweeters on the A pillar and if so do you have any photos of the install?
3 - You mentioned you upgraded the amp, any photos and instructions on that install?
4 - Did you install a sub-woofer and if so what kind and any photos and instructions on the install?
Thanks again for sharing your installs with all of us. DaBull

ChaosDogg · Nov 28, 2023

DaBull said:
Hi ChaosDogg, Impressive install. Couple questions?
1 - Have you had a chance to hear the new sound quality yet and if so what are your thoughts.
2 - Did you install any tweeters on the A pillar and if so do you have any photos of the install?
3 - You mentioned you upgraded the amp, any photos and instructions on that install?
4 - Did you install a sub-woofer and if so what kind and any photos and instructions on the install?
Thanks again for sharing your installs with all of us. DaBull

Yep I've been playing around with tuning it and so far it's been great. The plan was to install the tweeters on the door, but getting the wiring across was going to be a pain, so currently they're just fleece taped to the dash

I also bought an underseat sub (https://www.alpine.com.au/shop/subwoofers/enclosed-subwoofers/ss-sb10/), however it doesn't fit. Turns out the gap under the seat at the front of the drivers seat (where I measured) is a fair chunk bigger than the back of the drivers seat...

I currently have all the audio components on a marine ply board, and have that behind the back seat. I'm planning to add a fridge/inverter/drawer system so once that's all planned out I'll mount it all in a more permanent position and trim the cables so there's less spaghetti everywhere:

I've got 1 8 Pin DT connector for audio in from the factory head unit (this preserves the factory fader/balance control) and one 12 Pin DT connector out for the 4 speakers and 2 tweeters. The sub I wired directly to under the front seat.
My amp also has 6 inputs, so I'm going to wire the UHF radios external speaker to this so I can get that through the speakers too.

Robert T · Dec 12, 2023

ChaosDogg said:
Yep I've been playing around with tuning it and so far it's been great. The plan was to install the tweeters on the door, but getting the wiring across was going to be a pain, so currently they're just fleece taped to the dash
I also bought an underseat sub (https://www.alpine.com.au/shop/subwoofers/enclosed-subwoofers/ss-sb10/), however it doesn't fit. Turns out the gap under the seat at the front of the drivers seat (where I measured) is a fair chunk bigger than the back of the drivers seat...

I currently have all the audio components on a marine ply board, and have that behind the back seat. I'm planning to add a fridge/inverter/drawer system so once that's all planned out I'll mount it all in a more permanent position and trim the cables so there's less spaghetti everywhere:
View attachment 7834331 View attachment 7834332 View attachment 7834333

I've got 1 8 Pin DT connector for audio in from the factory head unit (this preserves the factory fader/balance control) and one 12 Pin DT connector out for the 4 speakers and 2 tweeters. The sub I wired directly to under the front seat.
My amp also has 6 inputs, so I'm going to wire the UHF radios external speaker to this so I can get that through the speakers too.

Amazing work @ChaosDogg . Have you mounted the tweeters yet? If so, can you provide some pictures and advice on the best mounting location given your experience. Also, if you have pictures of the connections you made to the factory head unit that would also be greatly appreciated. How hard was it to remove the front center console to get to the head unit?

Thanks

DCatt · Dec 22, 2023

I have been following various threads on speaker upgrades and tweeter positioning.

Had mine done yesterday (Focal flax Evo) and I’m super happy with the location and sound. Looks about as from the factory as I’ve seen.

Krabby · Dec 22, 2023

DCatt said:
I have been following various threads on speaker upgrades and tweeter positioning.

Had mine done yesterday (Focal flax Evo) and I’m super happy with the location and sound. Looks about as from the factory as I’ve seen.

Can you provide any more details?

DCatt · Dec 22, 2023

Professional install by a car audio specialist in Brisbane Australia.

Focal Flax Evo 6.5” component splits. Sound stage lifted nicely. Have not updated amp at this stage but very pleased with results.

I have seen a few installs online with tweeters on dash, top of door and custom A Pillar pods but didn’t quite look right.

Krabby · Dec 22, 2023

DCatt said:
Professional install by a car audio specialist in Brisbane Australia.

Focal Flax Evo 6.5” component splits. Sound stage lifted nicely. Have not updated amp at this stage but very pleased with results.

I have seen a few installs online with tweeters on dash, top of door and custom A Pillar pods but didn’t quite look right.

Thank you. I saw another setup with tweeters in the door and it certainly looks better than those mounted on the pillar or dash.

Rooballer · Dec 26, 2023

DCatt said:
Professional install by a car audio specialist in Brisbane Australia.

Focal Flax Evo 6.5” component splits. Sound stage lifted nicely. Have not updated amp at this stage but very pleased with results.

I have seen a few installs online with tweeters on dash, top of door and custom A Pillar pods but didn’t quite look right.

Similar to what I am looking at, but with a amp.
Who did you go with for the install.

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