water in passenger footwell (RHD vehicle)

mikemike39 said:

It's been bone dry in the UK for the last few weeks - since I collected my Grenadier. Shale Blue Utility - rough and smooth packs.

Naturally I love it

A few of the silly error messages - power steering, transmission, airbag...all that nonsense, I can forgive for now and I just ignore it

Been back and forth 150 miles each way this weekend. Longest trip so far

Yesterday was very warm and dry. a fair bit of water had gathered in the passenger (left hand) footwell by the end of the journey. Aircon had been on and running well.

It seems to run down from the inside (ie towards the middle of the car) footwell and gather on the rubber mat. Maybe a teacup of water was there. Did the same again today on the way back, although there was some rain.

What could this be?

Mike

PS - only error messages on the long drive were TPMS related ones

I also managed to get the vehicle into Low Range which had been too stiff before, waited until everything was well warmed up

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mighty_mf said:

Mike,
I have exactly the same issue, water in left side footwell. My dealer told me that I am not the only one in Switzerland and that they are currently investigating this problem. They suspect that it is the A/C. Keep you posted.

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Bobby Mac said:

I have another slant on possible water ingress problems. Mine had its first shower of rain last night (only 2mm - it‘s dry here) and was parked fairly level. I opened the drivers door, and as I was getting in had a shower come down into the footwell from above. The door sealing area was completely dry prior to this - it only happened as I put my weight onto the vehicle.
I noted it was coming from the rubber on the front corner of the cab and tracking around the pillar, then falling into the footwell.
I then removed the rubber and noted there is a V shaped cutout in the roof gutter, which is roughly where the water flow originated from. To my thinking it should probably be further towards the windscreen so it doesn’t track around the pillar.
The rubber was full of an algae like scum as was the gutter.
Anyway, I cleaned both front (same story both sides) and checked the rear. The rear were fine, but be careful if you take them off - there’s two Christmas tree studs concealed behind the flat bit across the rear of the vehicle which could be easily damaged. Sorry, forgot to get photos of rear.
To conclude, I think it’s a bit of poor design work on the front corners, and will be one of those area that needs constant attention not to get blocked up, hold water, or collect salty sand etc.
I also hope they may redesign a less complicated corner moulding with an open top that directs water to the windscreen when it’s stationary, and will not block up and hold water.

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Bobby Mac said:

To conclude, I think it’s a bit of poor design work on the front corners, and will be one of those area that needs constant attention

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trobex said:

This will be a long-term issue and will result in heavy rust in future years.

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Skiprat said:

Picked up my Grenadier just under 3 weeks ago- weather has been pretty dry apart from the last week. Have got the issue with water cascading from the front door seals (both) when opened, as well as discovering water under both front footwell mouldings. Haven’t informed the dealer yet but wondering if there is a known fix for these problems yet? Can’t confirm but I’m also suspicious of the tailgate seal allowing water in as well.
would like to think Ineos are actively coming up with fixes for these issues…?

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Bobby Mac said:

I have another slant on possible water ingress problems. Mine had its first shower of rain last night (only 2mm - it‘s dry here) and was parked fairly level. I opened the drivers door, and as I was getting in had a shower come down into the footwell from above. The door sealing area was completely dry prior to this - it only happened as I put my weight onto the vehicle.
I noted it was coming from the rubber on the front corner of the cab and tracking around the pillar, then falling into the footwell.
I then removed the rubber and noted there is a V shaped cutout in the roof gutter, which is roughly where the water flow originated from. To my thinking it should probably be further towards the windscreen so it doesn’t track around the pillar.
The rubber was full of an algae like scum as was the gutter.
Anyway, I cleaned both front (same story both sides) and checked the rear. The rear were fine, but be careful if you take them off - there’s two Christmas tree studs concealed behind the flat bit across the rear of the vehicle which could be easily damaged. Sorry, forgot to get photos of rear.
To conclude, I think it’s a bit of poor design work on the front corners, and will be one of those area that needs constant attention not to get blocked up, hold water, or collect salty sand etc.
I also hope they may redesign a less complicated corner moulding with an open top that directs water to the windscreen when it’s stationary, and will not block up and hold water.

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bemax said:

Have a look at the „wet feet“ thread. There’s a solution by inserting a 4 mm hose into the seal of the door (5€ at Amazon for 5 meters). It works, it is cheap, it is removable!

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Tony said:

I have the same issue with a cascade of water when opening LHS front door after heavy rain or washing my vehicle and it does appear to be water trapped between the inner and outer door seal. Asked my dealer if there was a fix for this (17/10/2023) and was told not as yet. If anyone is aware of a fix please let me know. Thanks.

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Telliottaus said:

I have this also, I was told it is a known issue and the are working on it. My drivers side door is also harder to close than the others, wonder if it is related to that

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AWo said:

Isn't that galvanized there? That should at least help, even if it doesn't mean to protect it against rust forever as salt and water will lead to a slow removal of the zinc layer. However, that could take fairly long (depending on how it was galvanised. Hot zinc dipped lasts very long. The window frame of my Series 2a is 52 years old and shows absolutely zero rust. But if it was galvanised the protection is rather low.

AWo

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Andy Cooke said:

I also have a video, but too large to upload here so took a still from it. My thoughts are that the rubber seals on the window are not close enough and water is running down inside, but then baffles me how it sits between the inner and outer rubbers on the door sill. We have 4 doing the same trick apart from one, on the passenger side which is dry.

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Skiprat said:

Picked up my Grenadier just under 3 weeks ago- weather has been pretty dry apart from the last week. Have got the issue with water cascading from the front door seals (both) when opened, as well as discovering water under both front footwell mouldings. Haven’t informed the dealer yet but wondering if there is a known fix for these problems yet? Can’t confirm but I’m also suspicious of the tailgate seal allowing water in as well.
would like to think Ineos are actively coming up with fixes for these issues…?

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