European winch cover do it yourself screw replacement

Jean Mercier · May 23, 2023

I replaced today the screws of my "numberplate winch cover".

The idea behind it was that it is way too easy to remove the original cheap screws of Ineos, and therefore reach the winch.

Here the final solution with the new screws and old ones:

So what did I do? I found at my sons place nice black screws with hexagonal hole (I don't know the name of that kind of screw) and found some bolts for it, I think it is M6, length is 1.4 cm (could have been 1 or 2 mm more, would have been better):

I removed the original clips and after some hammering and bending I inserted the bolt in it. The nail is for a avoiding the bolt to rotate while screwing the new screw in it (this was a bit trial and error), I did cut the nail by the way:

I did put the clip back in the original position, and then put some adhesive tape at the other side of the screw so that I don't loose when removing the cover (I will have to see of the adhesive tape survives heat and time):

And please go back to the first picture for the final result.

Conclusion:
More difficult to remove (was my goal), and more difficult to put back (slower), but nicer (black!)

DaBull · May 24, 2023

Jean Mercier said:
I replaced today the screws of my "numberplate winch cover".

The idea behind it was that it is way too easy to remove the original cheap screws of Ineos, and therefore reach the winch.

Here the final solution with the new screws and old ones:
View attachment 7813352

So what did I do? I found at my sons place nice black screws with hexagonal hole (I don't know the name of that kind of screw) and found some bolts for it, I think it is M6, length is 1.4 cm (could have been 1 or 2 mm more, would have been better):
View attachment 7813353
I removed the original clips and after some hammering and bending I inserted the bolt in it. The nail is for a avoiding the bolt to rotate while screwing the new screw in it (this was a bit trial and error), I did cut the nail by the way:
View attachment 7813354

I did put the clip back in the original position, and then put some adhesive tape at the other side of the screw so that I don't loose when removing the cover (I will have to see of the adhesive tape survives heat and time):
View attachment 7813355

And please go back to the first picture for the final result.

Conclusion:
More difficult to remove (was my goal), and more difficult to put back (slower), but nicer (black!)

Simple and Brilliant Solution! DaBull

Shopkeep · May 24, 2023

Jean Mercier said:
I replaced today the screws of my "numberplate winch cover".

The idea behind it was that it is way too easy to remove the original cheap screws of Ineos, and therefore reach the winch.

Here the final solution with the new screws and old ones:
View attachment 7813352

So what did I do? I found at my sons place nice black screws with hexagonal hole (I don't know the name of that kind of screw) and found some bolts for it, I think it is M6, length is 1.4 cm (could have been 1 or 2 mm more, would have been better):
View attachment 7813353
I removed the original clips and after some hammering and bending I inserted the bolt in it. The nail is for a avoiding the bolt to rotate while screwing the new screw in it (this was a bit trial and error), I did cut the nail by the way:
View attachment 7813354

I did put the clip back in the original position, and then put some adhesive tape at the other side of the screw so that I don't loose when removing the cover (I will have to see of the adhesive tape survives heat and time):
View attachment 7813355

And please go back to the first picture for the final result.

Conclusion:
More difficult to remove (was my goal), and more difficult to put back (slower), but nicer (black!)

I think your new screw is called a JCB bolt, common in the furniture industry.

DenisM · May 24, 2023

Then:
So what did I do? I found at my sons place nice black screws with hexagonal hole (I don't know the name of that kind of screw) and found some bolts for it, I think it is M6, length is 1.4 cm (could have been 1 or 2 mm more, would have been better):

Later:
"Dad..?" calls out Mercier jnr
"Yes son"?
"I left a couple of JCB bolts in the back room .. have you seen them..?"
"Who.. moi?"....

ECrider · May 24, 2023

Or Mercier jnr sits in favourite chair and it falls to pieces! Then shouts "daaaaaaad!!!!!!"

DCPU · May 24, 2023

Jean Mercier said:
I did put the clip back in the original position, and then put some adhesive tape at the other side of the screw so that I don't loose when removing the cover (I will have to see of the adhesive tape survives heat and time):

If I'm understanding it correctly, then when the adhesive tape fails, the nut will just rotate and you won't be able to get the winch cover off?

Why not just shop for the correct sized spire clip for your bolt?

SPIRE CLIPS / CHIMNEY U NUTS

www.kayfast.co.uk

Lollo050968 · May 24, 2023

For german user: Edelstahl Blechmuttern

Lollo050968 · May 24, 2023

and this type of screw in stainless steel

DIN 6912 Innensechskant Zylinderkopfschraube A2 M 6x16

the head is flat in opposite to DIN 912

@Jean hopefully your black screw is not rusty after return from hungary

Trialmaster · May 24, 2023

My question would be why mess around? Boredom?

DCPU · May 24, 2023

If I recall the original complaint about these screws was that they were too hard to remove.

We're a hard lot to please...

Lollo050968 · May 24, 2023

Not Boredom! The construction of Ineos is something for lab, nothing for dirt and mud. You will loose the screw and lost at first try. That was Jean trouble too, without dirt

I will do something better, when I am behind the wheel ….

Jean Mercier · Jun 8, 2023

DCPU said:
If I'm understanding it correctly, then when the adhesive tape fails, the nut will just rotate and you won't be able to get the winch cover off?

Why not just shop for the correct sized spire clip for your bolt?

SPIRE CLIPS / CHIMNEY U NUTS

SPIRE CLIPS / CHIMNEY U NUTS

www.kayfast.co.uk

The adhesive tape is only used as a dirty trick for not loosing the bolt.

And indeed, I should shop for the correct spire clip, but I was playing around

Jean Mercier · Jun 8, 2023

Lollo050968 said:
and this type of screw in stainless steel

DIN 6912 Innensechskant Zylinderkopfschraube A2 M 6x16

the head is flat in opposite to DIN 912

@Jean hopefully your black screw is not rusty after return from hungary

Already some rust on one of them

Jean Mercier · Jun 8, 2023

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Due to travelling back

I forgot about my thread, and am only reading this today sitting in a

Lollo050968 · Jun 8, 2023

You are welcome, I am preparing at the moment the Grenadier for our scotland trip, still working on the best Tetris session for the luggage and the dog box …….

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