The Hunters Corner Rod n Gun Club Topics

bemax · May 14, 2023

muxmax said:
Maybe its time to give this thread a bump again. I am using the idle time while I am waiting for the Grenadier to contemplate what might be useful for field dressing game. I like to hang the game upside down which makes it much easier to dress and is much cleaner, too. Don’t know yet, if hanging it from the car is really that good of a solution. All I found so far was this and that is too bulky for my taste. Maybe one of you has a better idea.

The other thing I am looking for is a pressurized water tank, favourably one that could be mounted to the airline rails (but not one of those huge tube showers). Does any one of you have an idea/experience with that?

Would this suit you?

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00TU2VQBQ/?tag=globalgrena0b-20

klarie · May 14, 2023

bemax said:
Would this suit you?

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00TU2VQBQ/?tag=globalgrena0b-20

Hm.. seriously - pressure is not intended . flushing with a lot of water indeed. The problem no matter what - is, if there are fragments of bones, projectile .. etc that could be pushed in the meat.. - What I do is I rather flush with low pressure - and more volume. ( If its a boar that has just bathed in mud ..

So what I do - if its female anything mammal / nipples and underlying material is cut away, - ( male respectively -- see that nothing outer skin comes into contact with open carcass.
Most important channel of bullet and anything of digestive system is out and all channels and natural body openings or were they were when dressing completed need to be flushed. - this will also reduce temperature pretty fast and is easier to transport to cooling unit.. where the carcass will hand at somewhat 3-7 centigrade..

So ususally I need for first flush at least 15-20l water. at home / respective my butcher who is doing the rest of the job there is a much larger hose and there the rest of the skin and so will be flushed again entirely / also outside if it is a boar. - What I think of is either mount a larger water canister on the ladder.. a litte pump and hose. / Perhaps roof rack water tank of 40l.. at the moment I carry a 20l canister with water separately and 10l for cleaning of hands, knifes and a sanitary sterilising liquid for knifes (I use a set of F Dick's.. )
and this one.. by Löwe, serving me now sind last 10 years w/o issues.. all always easy to clean and to be resharpened..

klarie · May 15, 2023

@muxmax in respect of future use of Grenadier for the same purpose ..

This is one that could be used - just use towball provider
(This link shows in use with prey! So be warned .. Dear forum member if you are offended by this do not open this link .. )
The other solution is in this picture by Heck.Pack .. with the typical German hunting vehicle a Suzuki Jimny..and a common fellow vehicle.. that is the original..

Not yet a special solution for Grenadier .. what I was considering was a telescopic solution from roof .. pull out and use it from there. - but I think this one seems still one of the best.
From Grenadier needed is a proper light bar at rear - when doing the job and of course water supply. Something like this

muxmax · May 15, 2023

klarie said:
@muxmax in respect of future use of Grenadier for the same purpose ..

This is one that could be used - just use towball provider
(This link shows in use with prey! So be warned .. Dear forum member if you are offended by this do not open this link .. )
The other solution is in this picture by Heck.Pack .. with the typical German hunting vehicle a Suzuki Jimny..and a common fellow vehicle.. that is the original..

Not yet a special solution for Grenadier .. what I was considering was a telescopic solution from roof .. pull out and use it from there. - but I think this one seems still one of the best.
From Grenadier needed is a proper light bar at rear - when doing the job and of course water supply. Something like this

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Thanks, @klarie I've already found both of those and to me they are too bulky/too much to carry around. My idea is now, to go with this and maybe construct some kind of exetendable hanger that would attach to a roof rack.

As far as the water is concerned, I am with you that pressure shouldn't be used when washing the gutted game. But it would be good to have that option to clean boots and gear.

klarie · May 15, 2023

muxmax said:
Thanks, @klarie I've already found both of those and to me they are too bulky/too much to carry around. My idea is now, to go with this and maybe construct some kind of exetendable hanger that would attach to a roof rack.

As far as the water is concerned, I am with you that pressure shouldn't be used when washing the gutted game. But it would be good to have that option to clean boots and gear.

Indeed .. I purchased a "Wildgalgen" (Gamegallows literally translated in en. ) what is similar to yours. -

Indeed something that can be used with a roof rack - would be nice. .. However this brings me to an idea to talk to my local metal worker & fitter.. - I am discussing with him already on a solution to prevent pranksters to get on the ladder .. At the moment I think of an ankled hook solution that can be hung into the ladder. So what is the maximum load that can the ladder accept on the rung or 2.. if a human has somewhat 90 kgs an you can go up there, a 2 kg stainless steel ankled holder with a ring. some 15-20 cms and there the clamps and hooks for the legs.. - should work.

What I consider to prevent pranksters is similar, a plate of stainless or blackened steel w. holes. on side bent around 180 degrees in radius of the rung.. opposite side a smaller set
2 lugs attached to plate and another steel steelstrapping that is sliding through the lugs and blocked with a padlock. But there is some time ahead until I need to consider this in reality.

bemax · May 15, 2023

klarie said:
Hm.. seriously - pressure is not intended . flushing with a lot of water indeed. The problem no matter what - is, if there are fragments of bones, projectile .. etc that could be pushed in the meat.. - What I do is I rather flush with low pressure - and more volume. ( If its a boar that has just bathed in mud ..

So what I do - if its female anything mammal / nipples and underlying material is cut away, - ( male respectively -- see that nothing outer skin comes into contact with open carcass.
Most important channel of bullet and anything of digestive system is out and all channels and natural body openings or were they were when dressing completed need to be flushed. - this will also reduce temperature pretty fast and is easier to transport to cooling unit.. where the carcass will hand at somewhat 3-7 centigrade..

So ususally I need for first flush at least 15-20l water. at home / respective my butcher who is doing the rest of the job there is a much larger hose and there the rest of the skin and so will be flushed again entirely / also outside if it is a boar. - What I think of is either mount a larger water canister on the ladder.. a litte pump and hose. / Perhaps roof rack water tank of 40l.. at the moment I carry a 20l canister with water separately and 10l for cleaning of hands, knifes and a sanitary sterilising liquid for knifes (I use a set of F Dick's.. )
and this one.. by Löwe, serving me now sind last 10 years w/o issues.. all always easy to clean and to be resharpened..

The pressure shouldn’t be high for sure, but 3 bar is not very high, isn’t it? Maybe it will be possible to open the nozzle a little bit more, so that the pressure is not that strong. Than the 15 litre would serve me well!

muxmax · May 15, 2023

The link you posted shows for me a 9litre tank without batteries. I found this one at Grube. 17 litres and no external power needed. That looks very interesting.

bemax · May 15, 2023

muxmax said:
The link you posted shows for me a 9litre tank without batteries. I found this one at Grube. 17 litres and no external power needed. That looks very interesting.

Perfect! I will buy that one right away!

muxmax · May 15, 2023

bemax said:
Perfect! I will buy that one right away!

Let me know if it is any good. I just spent so much money on new gear after a hunting weekend, I have to restrain myself

bemax · May 15, 2023

muxmax said:
Let me know if it is any good. I just spent so much money on new gear after a hunting weekend, I have to restrain myself

I will let you know. I found it on Amazoon and eBay for lower prices. The comments on Amazon are not perfectly positive. The priming of the pump seems to be an issue. Some units have been leaking. But everyone who got it working wrote that it works perfect.
I ordered it on Grube and can not cancel it for now, but I would try to get a used one from Amazon warehouse deals the next time (under 100 €)

ECrider · May 15, 2023

and this is the forum working perfectly

muxmax · May 15, 2023

bemax said:
I will let you know. I found it on Amazoon and eBay for lower prices. The comments on Amazon are not perfectly positive. The priming of the pump seems to be an issue. Some units have been leaking. But everyone who got it working wrote that it works perfect.
I ordered it on Grube and can not cancel it for now, but I would try to get a used one from Amazon warehouse deals the next time (under 100 €)

Thank you! The problem is, I have that typical combination of gadgetitis and only accepting the best, never used stuff. Second Hand just never quite does the magic for me. I guess that’s the force that keeps me going to work every morning

Apart from that, I believe that if Grube sells it, it can’t be bad. I trust them a lot and have never been disappointed.

And PS: why is this thread only on page six?

WyomingRoaming · May 16, 2023

Thought this was worth sharing here. Certainly top 3 most fantastic game camera pictures I’ve seen. Taken on my friends ranch in Moran, Wyoming. Bald Eagles and a Wolf eating what was an elk. We had such a long winter that many deer and elk have died (many speculating a harder, more restricted hunting season this year), but that has left an abundance of food for others…

RobS · May 17, 2023

klarie said:
Recent there were some hygiene regulations imposed.. So this means prey should not be in contact with ground.
I made a wooden stand with V shaped boards to field dress horizontally.
There is however a Stand available with winch that can be mounted on trailer ball and fixed also on roof rack or ladder to allow hanging field dressing
That is not particularly for Grenadier but rather universal.. I did see it only once mounted at an Isuzu ute / pickup .. and is to be folded away ..
Roe deer is quite simple.. just somewhat 15-18 kg .. but a decent boar may be 60 but also 100+ kgs .. that needs some lift.
that is a reason why I consider a rear winch as more important than a front winch.. pull a boar out of the shrubs and lift it for dressing..
Btw had just some sausage on bbq from boar.
A hunting mate had a flush system self made.. a 50l plastic tank a 12V pump plugged in a 12V connector and a transparent hose.. working nicely
In boot of a Mitsubishi Outlander
but a rather flat tank on roof of Grenadier.. or pickup boot should do the job
the question is the pump..

I use my winch to get deer off the ground for field dressing and washing out. I hang a gambrel hook through a snatch block off a tree limb and winch the deer up. Trees are plentiful where I hunt. If you don’t have a winch or if you need approach from rear of vehicle you can use the gambrel hook, snatch block and rope. Tie one end off to the gambrel and the other end to the truck. Make sure you have a long rope so you can pull far enough away from your vehicle. Otherwise, you might get some mess on your ride.

klarie · May 17, 2023

WyomingRoaming said:
Thought this was worth sharing here. Certainly top 3 most fantastic game camera pictures I’ve seen. Taken on my friends ranch in Moran, Wyoming. Bald Eagles and a Wolf eating what was an elk. We had such a long winter that many deer and elk have died (many speculating a harder, more restricted hunting season this year), but that has left an abundance of food for others…

That are pictures rarely seen in Germany. A bold eagle appears like hovering. But what happens there is "Nature" the fate of one species benefitting others.
Because they need it to survive .. and used by Mother Nature as cleaning & recycling brush.
Excellent picture.

globalgregors · May 17, 2023

WyomingRoaming said:
Thought this was worth sharing here. Certainly top 3 most fantastic game camera pictures I’ve seen. Taken on my friends ranch in Moran, Wyoming. Bald Eagles and a Wolf eating what was an elk. We had such a long winter that many deer and elk have died (many speculating a harder, more restricted hunting season this year), but that has left an abundance of food for others…

Awesome picture!

Reminds me of a large escort we had for an amazing few minutes in Mongolia, this one a Golden Eagle - as employed by the eagle hunters of the Altay Mountains.

…and a bit of a time waste here if you’re interested in their traditional hunting techniques.

bemax · May 19, 2023

muxmax said:
Let me know if it is any good. I just spent so much money on new gear after a hunting weekend, I have to restrain myself

This device works well for my me

The video is unfortunately to big to upload it.

Barney · May 19, 2023

Ihave had this for years.

Dirtworker - Mobiler Druckreiniger mit 14l Wassertank

Dirtworker – mobiler Druckreiniger mit einem 14 Liter Wassertank, 6bar Druck und 12V Anschluss für jedes Auto mit Zigarettenanzünder, optional auch mit 220 V Adapter.

www.bike-components.de

But only use that for outdoor. https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0053A2M80/?tag=globalgrena0b-20
We can wash our game in a break-up chamber on a farm in the hunting ground and hang it in the fridge.

DaveB · Aug 6, 2023

I joined a new pistol club this week and went for a shoot today for the first time in a year.
Put 150 rounds down of 38 +P and 357 magnum.
Only at 10 & 15 metres but still nice to only put 7 shots outside the 8 ring when shooting double action and a mixture of right hand, left hand and double in weaver stance.
Was very relaxing
So was sitting at home cleaning it afterwards

klarie · Aug 6, 2023

DaveB said:
I joined a new pistol club this week and went for a shoot today for the first time in a year.
Put 150 rounds down of 38 +P and 357 magnum.
Only at 10 & 15 metres but still nice to only put 7 shots outside the 8 ring when shooting double action and a mixture of right hand, left hand and double in weaver stance.
Was very relaxing
So was sitting at home cleaning it afterwards
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A S&W.. 686 I assume 6" ? Nice. hope you like it.. the grip handle is tres chic

Yesterday I was the first time since about March 22 on the Trap range .. shooting Shotgun "olympic style" Means you call the clay disk by voice and the shotgun already in the shoulder .. speed varying between 60 & 90 metres per sec and random direction. - Got 18 out of 25 twice. For not doing any training on this and using a hunting O/U shotgun with shorter barrels and not a sports one with special tuning .. it was a quite satisfying experience.

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