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• Apr 18, 2023

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If we order the Trial Master with the 17" alloy wheels option, is the spare wheel alloy or steel?

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• Apr 18, 2023

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Alloy

 

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Interesting question. Many cars use steel for cost saving. You do need a different set of bolts.

 

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The spare is exposed on the back door so it has to match and all the PT vehicles I've seen have matching spares. Plus I always do a full 5-wheel rotation so it damn well better match.

 

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Crying out for a bespoke "Ineos Forum" spare wheel cover ....

With a total weight of approx 40kg (steel rim+ KO2) I'm hoping NOT to have to change it all that often...other than at service time, in which case the young'ns can handle it. On the road however... am thinking a small protrusion from the roof rack with a detachable pulley set (like the simple hay-shed loft arrangement) might just work...

 

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DenisM said:

Crying out for a bespoke "Ineos Forum" spare wheel cover ....

With a total weight of approx 40kg (steel rim+ KO2) I'm hoping NOT to have to change it all that often...other than at service time, in which case the young'ns can handle it. On the road however... am thinking a small protrusion from the roof rack with a detachable pulley set (like the simple hay-shed loft arrangement) might just work...

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I think you'll find it will be closer to 25kgs, KO2's are 17kgs alone, then 7kgs for the rim

 

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MrMike said:

I think you'll find it will be closer to 25kgs, KO2's are 17kgs alone, then 7kgs for the rim

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Alloy rims are over 12 , steel close to 15kg

 

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Tazzieman said:

Alloy rims are over 12 , steel close to 15kg

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My steel rims on my LC were 10

 

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MrMike said:

My steel rims on my LC were 10

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I stand corrected!

 

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MrMike said:

I stand corrected!

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My S3 landy steelies weigh 14.5kg.
Together with the armstrong steering and leg extension brakes, I never have to visit a gym

 

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Can anybody enlighten me please on two issues:
1. the height of the spare wheel centre above the ground; and
2. the diameter of the Trialmaster steel wheel studs ...e.g. are they M14 or M16 ?
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• May 13, 2023

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DenisM said:

Can anybody enlighten me please on two issues:
1. the height of the spare wheel centre above the ground; and
2. the diameter of the Trialmaster steel wheel studs ...e.g. are they M14 or M16 ?
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the centre of the spare wheel is 125 cm above the ground.

It is definitely not M16. But I'm not sure if it's actually a standard M14. From the diameter it looks like it, but the thread looks not standard to me. I'm on the road and don't have an M14 nut at the moment.

 

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rovie said:

@DenisM
the centre of the spare wheel is 125 cm above the ground.

It is definitely not M16. But I'm not sure if it's actually a standard M14. From the diameter it looks like it, but the thread looks not standard to me. I'm on the road and don't have an M14 nut at the moment.

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Thanks @rovie , that's a great help!
Re. theM14 thread, some are 1.25mm while others can be 1.5mm. The diameter is what I was largely concerned with.

 

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These scales have proved to be reasonably accurate in the past. 17" steel with BFG KO:

 

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MrMike said:

I think you'll find it will be closer to 25kgs, KO2's are 17kgs alone, then 7kgs for the rim

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I took off and weighed my Steelie 17" spare with the KO2 tyre yesterday, it's 39.4 kgs.

 

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DenisM said:

Thanks @rovie , that's a great help!
Re. theM14 thread, some are 1.25mm while others can be 1.5mm. The diameter is what I was largely concerned with.

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My steel wheel lugs are M14 (Male thread is 13.6mm outside edges on my vernier calipers - they're only good to .1 ) thread is
1.25mm (3 threads just under 4mm from the photo) with 19mm nuts that are annoyingly open ended (there's a set of 22 closed wheel nuts to go get - as the 5 security nuts are ok and the spare only has 2 others and can get rubbish into it with the std cover)

 

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After having a puncture in a Grenadier steel or alloy it's quite a lift to get it back. on the rear door mind your back.

 

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It's not a bad idea to have a practise at home to see if you have the ability to even change a tyre.
Easy to bugger your back if you are out of condition , esp if stressed or in bad weather.
Better to flag a young punk down and ask for help.
But good luck with finding a good strong punk.