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Just a thought, I wonder if you could turn the barrier around?M1 has short brackets at the top and long brackets at the bottom picking up on one of the tie down ring mounting points:
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N1 had long brackets at the top and short brackets at the bottom picking up on the seat back bracket mounting for the M1:
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Various different final fixings have been seen across the prototypes, but it would be nice if final fixings were tooless.
It could be, it's been a plain screw/bolt in other iterations, although it still leaves a fairly large chunk of metal attached to the vehicle side.I wonder if this is a quick release??
If so, and the top anchors just lift up, that would be awesome. I opted not to buy it until I knew how “removable” it was.View attachment 7806084
Can you explain that a little more?Just a thought, I wonder if you could turn the barrier around?
The top hinges look like they have springs. I guess we won't know for sure how they release until cars with cargo barriers are in owners hands. I have one on order so am interested in this.I wonder if this is a quick release??
If so, and the top anchors just lift up, that would be awesome. I opted not to buy it until I knew how “removable” it was.View attachment 7806084
The fixings are the same, top and bottom, IF the barrier can be turned 180 deg around the brackets would extend the barrier backward.Can you explain that a little more?
I think I understand, but the lower brackets are on an angle, so not sure you could do that?The fixings are the same, top and bottom, IF the barrier can be turned 180 deg around the brackets would extend the barrier backward.
Does that make sense?
I think I understand, but the lower brackets are on an angle, so not sure you could do that?
Agreed. That looks messy.That looks terrible. I could put up with visible evidence of the spot welds but to have them randomly spaced is just not on.
My car is also a utility order. It will probably look better in the lighter mushroom colour but the above is just not acceptable in my opinion.
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Might be wax - hard to tell. But if this was my truck I would be querying the finish.That is not acceptable for a customers car. How the hell did that get thru the "batch and hold" process that is suppose to be about QC checks. Is that paint blistering to the left of the rear roof rail?
personally I quite like the industrial look and honesty of it. Mine is Donny grey and some of the spots were proud, some indented and some half and half. Being fortunate to have sat in my my own in the dealer, what you do feel is the overall heft and solidness of the thing. Having grown up with defenders, 110s and 90s, part of their character was the appalling welding on the window frames and elsewhere. Weld spatter was just painted over.. Classic.No, I haven't been back to my dealer since a long time, last time being last Wednesday
But I have a picture from the welds of the side panels of a customer car:
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Looks like they've carefully randomised the welding robots parameters to give it a 'rustic' look.No, I haven't been back to my dealer since a long time, last time being last Wednesday
But I have a picture from the welds of the side panels of a customer car:
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However we wrap it up, it looks messy as hell. Perhaps it’s a nod to the defender being delivered with factory dents on the flat panels or world famous welding spatter.Might be wax - hard to tell. But if this was my truck I would be querying the finish.
You took the word out of my mouth...Looks like they've carefully randomised the welding robots parameters to give it a 'rustic' look.