Europe Into production

PanoramaJJ · Feb 2, 2023

I wrote to my dealer, I wrote to Ineos. The answers were ... "blabla....".
I think the best thing is to wait for two or three weeks and then to see what happens.
This time to wait is not my biggest problem. I have to do a lot at work. So I look to other things. In the middle of february we will see what has happened. Things will be fine, I am sure.
SO WHEN WE WANT TO MAKE OURSELVES MAD - WE CAN DO THAT. BUT WE DON´T NEED TO.
See You on the road this year. Everything will be phantastic, and our INEOS will be with us. I can´t await it, that is true. The same feeling like waiting for christmas, isn´t it?

trobex · Feb 2, 2023

Jean Mercier said:
It's clear that some members of that forum are real experts:

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"Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.
Well done Jim...!"

... unless it's sarcasm

Pure sarcasm lmao!

Wayneos · Feb 3, 2023

Norb-TX said:
I found this, sorry if its already posted.

Ineos Grenadier customer cars arrive at dealers - Page 1 - INEOS - PistonHeads UK

www.pistonheads.com

The hate for the Grenny on that forum is nuts!

Stu_Barnes · Feb 3, 2023

Piston heads used to be great 10 years or so. Very supportive community. It’s gone a bit strange in the last few years. At least that was my impression. I log on every 6 months now mainly for the classifieds.

Tazzieman · Feb 3, 2023

Model specific groups are the only ones I follow. Too much noise/negativity otherwise.

grenadierboy · Feb 3, 2023

Thanks for the link - spent 10 minutes reading the ranting on Piston Heads.

It's mad and quite funny actually - so many uninformed views (borderline hate really) written with such authority & knowledge about the Grenny.

The negative views fall into 3 main buckets: too expensive; ugly looking; will fail because no one will buy it

Tazzieman · Feb 3, 2023

grenadierboy said:
The negative views fall into 3 main buckets: too expensive; ugly looking; will fail because no one will buy it

Basically , "I can't afford it"
4th category : "I'm a welded on Defender chap , my father fought in WW1 AND 2 and I hate Brexiteers, especially rich ones"

jamesfielding · Feb 3, 2023

grenadierboy said:
Thanks for the link - spent 10 minutes reading the ranting on Piston Heads.

It's mad and quite funny actually - so many uninformed views (borderline hate really) written with such authority & knowledge about the Grenny.

The negative views fall into 3 main buckets: too expensive; ugly looking; will fail because no one will buy it

I kind of feel the IG is marmite, you either love it or not.
A friend instantly slagged it off when I said I was getting one, with comments like "but you'll never use it to its full capacity, why don't you just get a defender instead, its too square, etc etc etc"
So I'm not surprised there's a lot of hate out there for it.

DenisM · Feb 3, 2023

jamesfielding said:
I kind of feel the IG is marmite, you either love it or not.
A friend instantly slagged it off when I said I was getting one, with comments like "but you'll never use it to its full capacity, why don't you just get a defender instead, its too square, etc etc etc"
So I'm not surprised there's a lot of hate out there for it.

I suspect it's driven by envy and a deep seated fear of change!!

martinjmknight · Feb 3, 2023

Fidei Defensor said:
Surely you send your deposit but hand over the check when you get the keys?

If you pay by Debit Card or Credit Card (warn your bank of the large payment) you can use Chargeback to get a full refund if the car is not delivered in 120 days if the company won’t refund or if it goes into liquidation. Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act (UK) doesn’t apply because the vehicle costs over £35,000. I think that Chargeback applies for all countries but check.

PanoramaJJ · Feb 3, 2023

I have told to several people that I am waiting for my new car. There are two ways to do that.
THE ONE
I tell them that I buy an Ineos Grenadier. (Question: "Is this a new electric company?). Then I have to tell a long story about the end of the old defender, about Sir Ratcliffe, about Steyr-Puch and so on - and when I am at the end, the other still has no idea what the Ineos Grenadier is...
THE OTHER
I tell them that I buy a new car. (Question: "An electric one?") And I answer that I am waiting for a car with a Diesel Engine. At this point the conversation allways ends....

Eric · Feb 3, 2023

PanoramaJJ said:
I have told to several people that I am waiting for my new car. There are two ways to do that.
THE ONE
I tell them that I buy an Ineos Grenadier. (Question: "Is this a new electric company?). Then I have to tell a long story about the end of the old defender, about Sir Ratcliffe, about Steyr-Puch and so on - and when I am at the end, the other still has no idea what the Ineos Grenadier is...
THE OTHER
I tell them that I buy a new car. (Question: "An electric one?") And I answer that I am waiting for a car with a Diesel Engine. At this point the conversation allways ends....

Ends quicker if you add 3l 6 cylinder turbo charged no hybrid gas guzzling- YES

McPharmer II · Feb 4, 2023

Finally an announcement in the German car papers "Autobild" for the 09. of february:

emax · Feb 4, 2023

This might be the first time I'll buy an "Autobild" journal.

bemax · Feb 4, 2023

emax said:
This might be the first time I'll buy an "Autobild" journal.

I am sure that some good soul will publish readable photos of the article here.
So you can stand by your convictions!

Shaky · Feb 4, 2023

Tazzieman said:
Basically , "I can't afford it"
4th category : "I'm a welded on Defender chap , my father fought in WW1 AND 2 and I hate Brexiteers, especially rich ones"

The negative views fall into 3 main buckets: too expensive; ugly looking; will fail because no one will buy it

Anyone remember the new defender when it was released to the press. All the same arguments were rolled out for that vehicle. Bizarrely JLR can’t seem to make enough of them.

I also saw a comment on there from another expert who claims the depreciation will be off a cliff. He must be basing that on his supreme knowledge of the old defender, new defender, Landcruiser and old Range Rover, as everyone knows they suffer badly with depreciation….

Unless you have a £2000 car that you have spent £40000 on, and it has 500bhp there aren’t many on Pistonheads who are interested.

emax · Feb 4, 2023

bemax said:
I am sure that some good soul will publish readable photos of the article here.
So you can stand by your convictions!

Whatever you think about "Bild," they may be click-baiters (or purchase-baiters?) and and they exaggerate dramatically. But they're excellent at research.

And when I get my hands on a "Bild," I actually look at it.

But I've never bought one.

beg · Feb 4, 2023

Just had call confirming my vehicle is built and in the holding batch

PBD · Feb 8, 2023

1700 hrs Wednesday 8th of February 23. I have just received an email from ineos telling me my car is "in production" and asking how do I want to pay for it.
Considering my account has shown for over the last 8 months that this is a straight cash purchase and at that time they told me I was one of the first worldwide who would be getting theirs last September, Its a bit of a joke! It is a communication though!
I am also sure that if I and a couple of better qualified members on this forum, had to sort out 10000 delivery dates in the next 12 months for the new vehicles it would be a piece of cake!
I bet Dave could do it on his own! The lack of honesty from ineos annoys me but Im in it for the long haul!
End of rant!

Trialmaster · Feb 8, 2023

PBD said:
1700 hrs Wednesday 8th of February 23. I have just received an email from ineos telling me my car is "in production" and asking how do I want to pay for it.
Considering my account has shown for over the last 8 months that this is a straight cash purchase and at that time they told me I was one of the first worldwide who would be getting theirs last September, Its a bit of a joke! It is a communication though!
I am also sure that if I and a couple of better qualified members on this forum, had to sort out 10000 delivery dates in the next 12 months for the new vehicles it would be a piece of cake!
I bet Dave could do it on his own! The lack of honesty from ineos annoys me but Im in it for the long haul!
End of rant!

Just had the same. Was told by Ineos that it was in build last month. Funny, if not sad.

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