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I didn't realise the cabin is significant longer (due to more vertical rear door) and thus overall cabin spaceView attachment 7798707
I overlayed the OP's images to get a better feel for the comparison. Aligned at the front axle and I'm assuming both the images are 1:1 scale.
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Here's another attempt. I didn't think the previous images scaled correctly since the wheelbase of the MB is only 1.2" shorter than the Grenadier. These can be misleading if they are not scaled accurately or camera positions are significantly different so I tried to find two profile images centered on the b-pillar belt line. Front axles are lined up vertically and the belt line is lined up horizontally. Does seem to show a longer and taller cabin, as grenadierboy points out.
Okay... so the people who live in Holland are the Dutch, but the country isn't actually Holland, it is The Netherlands, which is actually Nederland. I'm going back to bed
In one of the Youtube clips showing production there are shots of the Grenadier body shell without the front wings on. The sloping firewall down from the windscreen looks VERY much like a G. I did a double take when watching it.For me its always looked like a G class, I see very little Land Rover in it. But as always it's in the eye of the beholder.
lots of "fluff" but, Tazzieman the sound of the G wagen is magnificent!!Well JR did say it was a cut price G wagen, the fluff of which I for one can well do without!
Yes , but the running cost!lots of "fluff" but, Tazzieman the sound of the G wagen is magnificent!!
Look at post 5 in this thread. I made a chart to the best of my abilities that compares all the numbers.Thanks for doing this.....can you do the same and compare to the Bronco and Jeep Wrangler?
(A long time ago!) I actually used a 4-wheel weighing kit (belonging to a friend who worked on racing BMWs) to check my D90 loaded, when changing out the springs......... The whole thing weighed close to 6000 lb, but I was pretty closely even on all 4 wheels!When setting up racecar or performance car suspension it is typically set up per each corner allowing for driver, fluids, general weight distribution.
One reason why the Maclaren had the seat in the centre.
Look at post 5 in this thread. I made a chart to the best of my abilities that compares all the numbers.
The range I found was 173.7" to 198.9″ so I went with that. It's not perfect science as I had to jump all over the web to find things, sometimes even using a non-2022 spec.Krabby - thanks and this is very helpful. Are you sure the Bronco length is 198? I think it might be closer to 189?
I was just hopeful to see the graphic comparison as it is very interesting to see it visually also.
The range I found was 173.7" to 198.9″ so I went with that. It's not perfect science as I had to jump all over the web to find things, sometimes even using a non-2022 spec.
Cool video! This is the town of Nederland, Colorado - where I lived for 20 years before moving to the west side of the Rockies. The town of Nederland is at 8,300 feet above sea level (2,530 meters), but we actually lived a few miles from town at about 8,500 feet. For a long time I commuted down the canyon to Boulder, which is at 5,500 feet. This kind of a commute leads one to have different requirements for a daily driver that doubles as an off-roader. Many of the trails we drive are steep, so low-end torque is crucial. We also drive our off-road vehicles on highways over high-mountain passes (over 10,000 feet), where the speed limit is 65 miles per hour (on the passes) and 75-85 mph on the straight-aways. So decent horse power is crucial in order to drive with the traffic, and pass slow-moving semi-trucks. Summers are hot, and this increases the strain on a vehicle driving up big passes, and winters are cold. Its typical to get morning temps around -25 F (that's -32 C) in January and February (see our thermostat below). I think these conditions create challenges for a vehicle that maybe aren't present in all geographic locations.You guys might both enjoy this!
Itchy Boots
Oh - for me that could be a bad sign ... I tell you why: I often heard very bad storys from Mercedes-G-Driver, because they had big RUST PROBLEMS at the sloping firewall down from the windscreen - an you can imagine what this means. You can invest LOTS OF MONEY to rrescue your car from this problem! (I thought that the Mercedes G would be a rust-safe car, because of the price, and because it is a Mercedes - but that is a fail...)In one of the Youtube clips showing production there are shots of the Grenadier body shell without the front wings on. The sloping firewall down from the windscreen looks VERY much like a G. I did a double take when watching it.
That's what I meant in a post about declining quality at Mercedes. That's why I sold my last one about 20 years ago and didn't really want another one. Especially since I don't identify with this brand at all. But I will probably jump over my shadow and get involved with them again.Oh - for me that could be a bad sign ... I tell you why: I often heard very bad storys from Mercedes-G-Driver, because they had big RUST PROBLEMS at the sloping firewall down from the windscreen - an you can imagine what this means. You can invest LOTS OF MONEY to rrescue your car from this problem! (I thought that the Mercedes G would be a rust-safe car, because of the price, and because it is a Mercedes - but that is a fail...)
You're welcome! As soon as I saw you two guys talking about the Netherlands and Nederland, I remembered the Itchy Boots vid of her passing through there... and she is from the Netherlands!Thanks for posting the video - that was a bit nostalgic, and resulted in a long-winded post!