Comparaison Grenadier / Mercedes Classe G

stickshifter said:

I refuse to contemplate the existence of a "New Holland" - not after folks decided to toss out the name for Nederland. Folks need to make up their minds

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DaveB said:

Yes. But they should not be allowed to win.
About 10 years ago?? the Queensland State Government decided they had enough and banned bikies
It changed everything and reduced the tension and troubles immensely
these guys were no doubt drug dealers, but shows how stupid they are to advertise the fact.


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DaveB said:

I love how countries/Cities names are changed by other countries.
I was on a train in Italy and some tourists were trying to find the stop for Florence.
I showed them Firenza and they thought I was crazy.

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DaveB said:

I love how countries/Cities names are changed by other countries.
I was on a train in Italy and some tourists were trying to find the stop for Florence.
I showed them Firenza and they thought I was crazy.

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emax said:

I am not amused about a biker ban. It's the wrong attribute to ban.

A ban on tattoos would be much more effective. And be it in particular male tattoos, if you like.

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Tazzieman said:

a couple of years ago at a Maybach launch party (lol, free champagne, sorry) I sat in a new G wagen and instantly gave me the impression that I was simultaneously a dick and a ponce . Which I don't think I am.
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The day I sat in a grenadier I felt people would still judge me , sometimes harshly - but differently.
It's interesting how image drives design and marketing.

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DaveB said:

Not biker, Bikie.
Now called Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs.
Normal bike riders are very welcome and we have a tradition here every Christmas that motorcycle riders dress up themselves and their bikes and deliver toys to needy children and charities.
Bikies on the other hand are just drug runners and criminals.

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emax said:

The German idiom says "Kleider machen Leute": Clothes make the man. If I wear a blue jeans and have oily hands, I tend to say "Hi, how are you, old bastard". With a white collar and a tie (which I sometimes have to wear) my language is very different "it's so nice to meet you again".

It's the same with other things: Clothes, cars, women, wristwatches. All the decorations make the man. It's a mental thing. And that's fine - as long as you're aware that you're playing a game. As long as you look in the mirror at night and say, "Here I am."

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• polo shirt in company colour with company name on it, casual pants and shoes
• Hi-vis shirt with company name and Dave(in my case) work pants, safety boots & hard hat
• Business shirt with company name and dress pants (hi vis vest if needed)
• Personal business suit
• Personal tuxedo ( I don't have one)

DaveB said:

We have a mixture of clothes options to wear for work ranging from

• polo shirt in company colour with company name on it, casual pants and shoes
• Hi-vis shirt with company name and Dave(in my case) work pants, safety boots & hard hat
• Business shirt with company name and dress pants (hi vis vest if needed)
• Personal business suit
• Personal tuxedo ( I don't have one)

Each one makes you feel and act very differently.
I always say to the team, dress how your customer is dressed and you will always fit in.
Some sales guys always wear the business shirt and vest and when their customers are wearing the full work wear it makes them look as if they think they are better than the customers.
Sometimes though you are going to different types of meetings one after the other.
I have a large plastic box in the boot that contains all options so I can quickly change if needed
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Tazzieman said:

Not to hate on G wagens , which are hugely capable, but are now over the top townie cars.

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• yes, I am a man and that was my sight.
• And I haven't seen male models, and even if: I wouldn't have taken pictures of them
• And yes: the women have been much more of a highlight than most of the cars
• And I am addicted to beauty *).

emax said:

I am not amused about a biker ban. It's the wrong attribute to ban.

A ban on tattoos would be much more effective. And be it in particular male tattoos, if you like.

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emax said:

A few years ago I was at the IAA, the automobile fair at Frankfurt. Since I have a press pass, I could visit the show on the press day. No overcrowding, all very nice and exclusive.

I visited all the big ones and the special ones as well. Brabus is a special one. They had the "G 800".

800 HP.

I felt strange there, no German voices, very few English. Instead, Russian everywhere on the stand. The G800 was the star, with an exhaust pipe you could stick your entire arm in up to your shoulder, WOW!

I saw sunglasses, muscles, tailored suits, but all rednecks.

That had nothing to do with my 88 HP W460. G Wagons (G-Wagons!) and G800s are two different things,

I dare say: A G-Wagon is only a G-Wagon if it has a rigid axle at the front. Everything else is a lifestyle product.

Some of my photographs there:

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DaveB said:

I find it difficult to understand.

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DaveB said:

On the subject of tattoos we are now in a world where nearly everyone under the age of 40 has them.

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emax said:

The German idiom says "Kleider machen Leute": Clothes make the man. If I wear a blue jeans and have oily hands, I tend to say "Hi, how are you, old bastard". With a white collar and a tie (which I sometimes have to wear) my language is very different "it's so nice to meet you again".

It's the same with other things: Clothes, cars, women, wristwatches. All the decorations make the man. It's a mental thing. And that's fine - as long as you're aware that you're playing a game. As long as you look in the mirror at night and say, "Here I am."

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Tazzieman said:

I know plenty of folk expert at "putting on the dog". Which translates as
"To dress up; to put on airs; to make a show of wealth and/or importance; to be pretentious."

To someone prone to oily hands, the other word is "wanker"

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stickshifter said:

Yeah, and to connect back to Holland / Nederland... New York was New Amsterdam before the British grabbed it from the Dutch. Try explaining that to Gen Z...

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klarie said:

Reading all the thread from G-Wagon to IG .. to drivers / owners profile - to final behavioural rites..
Yepp the term wanker or jerk cross the Atlantic - is well known.
People to make a show - in some business this is a must. - Understatement - is not recognized. - There was once an ad here in Germany from one of the public savings banks. "Sparkasse" (Austria and perhaps Luxembourg also") No I do not translate jokes abut this organisation..
They had an ad- my house, my car, my boat.. my horse..
Exactly that - so status only on property. - Considering my collaegues. - What company car, got invited to this and that.. Rotary club member, - whats so ever.
WTF don't care.
A person like Sir Jim is rather settled, wealthy enough to ignore those rites (to some limits) - But in some business - like financial or medical, law, some management positions they cannot circumvent those. Not even I can't but minimized. If I meet with certain people Tailored suit, tie, proper hand made shoes.. that I wear a Luminox wristwatch instead of other more known famous brand (even if it is perhaps a "fake") .. caused already raised eyebrows...

So I play the show - somewhat ironic if I have to - but my preferred cloth is rather relaxed, either jeans, or professional Härkila, or E.S.
or simply sweat pants at home.

Prefer good quality - but most certainly no "brand" affinity. - Stuff must fulfil the job and price / value match.
Do I NEED it, Do I WANT it for myself, DO I have to prove it or make a show to somebody else..
For IG -
I dont need it for daily business. - But to perfom my 2nd life in hunting and forestry - I need more capability as the current vehicle.
Do I want one ? Yes definitely.
Do I have to prove anything - most certainly no. And IG is not the vehicle to replace a tiny or non existent reproductive organ..
Keep a low profile.. even if IG has a high one... (higher than MB G Wagon at least)

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