Working in engine bay

WhiteBear · Dec 4, 2022

I think it will be the new Moll AFB battery type which seems to be an EFB plus as seen in the picture above.

„MOLL, the inventor of the modern EFB, sets new standards with the new product MOLL AFB. The MOLL AFB is based on the MOLL EFB technology and has been specifically adapted to the AGM on-board network behavior. The newly developed formulations ensure higher power consumption and improved micro-hybrid capability compared to AGM batteries. Together with the corrosion-resistant alloys, this ensures excellent temperature resistance and high cold-start performance. This makes the MOLL AFB the "better AGM battery".

• Use of particularly corrosion-resistant alloys
• Use of specially developed active masses
• Robust drop casting technology with reinforced grid design
• Low water consumption - maintenance-free thanks to calcium grid technology
• Highest level of leakage protection thanks to the patented double lid with ESD-safe sealing plugs
• Electrolyte level indicator (ELI) according to the requirements of the automotive industry
• Longer storage time thanks to calcium grid technology
• High vibration resistance“

Maybe Ineos has been testing these batteries with and for Moll.

WhiteBear · Dec 4, 2022

DCPU said:
It would be nice to be AGM but it's been EFB plus in recent prototypes:
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How is a battery replaced without demounting the rear seats frame etc.?

DCPU · Dec 4, 2022

It looks like it will slide forwards under the seat:

painter · Dec 4, 2022

Easier than removing the 12V in my old '70s MGB. And I don't even want to talk about jump starting !

So just to be clear, is there a main battery under the hood ? Thx.

DCPU · Dec 4, 2022

No, photo above shows main battery. Auxiliary sits in same position under the other side of the rear seats.

Jean Mercier · Dec 4, 2022

blueTdi said:
• High vibration resistance“

As it is more or less in the middle of the two axles, there will be less vibrations than under the bonnet!

DCPU · Dec 4, 2022

painter said:
Easier than removing the 12V in my old '70s MGB.

For the Lotus 340R you had to remove the body to be able to change the battery.

painter · Dec 4, 2022

DCPU said:
No, photo above shows main battery. Auxiliary sits in same position under the other side of the rear seats.

Got it. Thank you much for all your invaluable photo finds and info. You're a Prince !

I move you've earned "Master Contributor" status !!

DaveB · Dec 4, 2022

blueTdi said:
How is a battery replaced without demounting the rear seats frame etc.?

I had the battery in my current Mercedes changed recently and the guy was unscrewing and taking bits off for 20 minutes before he got to the battery under the bonnet.
There is also a second battery in the boot for the stop start function.

DCPU · Dec 5, 2022

painter said:
Got it. Thank you much for all your invaluable photo finds and info.

Seeing is believing...or used to be before photoshop.

Tazzieman · Dec 5, 2022

DaveB said:
I had the battery in my current Mercedes changed recently and the guy was unscrewing and taking bits off for 20 minutes before he got to the battery under the bonnet.
There is also a second battery in the boot for the stop start function.

There is a 12v battery somewhere in my wife's Volvo EV. It takes several minutes to scroll through the DIY menu then you have to find some tool and remove various bits and pieces.
A dealer will probably take longer. Everything gets rounded up on the bill.

Krabby · Dec 5, 2022

DCPU said:
It looks like it will slide forwards under the seat:
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Unrelated question from the photo. What is the "P" shaped opening to the left of the grab handle?

globalgregors · Dec 5, 2022

Krabby said:
Unrelated question from the photo. What is the "P" shaped opening to the left of the grab handle?

I believe that’s where the cargo barrier is mounted in the 2 seat utility wagon.

Krabby · Dec 5, 2022

Gotcha. Makes sense.

DCPU · Dec 5, 2022

globalgregors said:
I believe that’s where the cargo barrier is mounted in the 2 seat utility wagon.

Rather oddly, it doesn't appear they use the obvious fittings, but rather remove the grab handles above the rear passenger doors and bolt the cargo barrier into there:

ECrider · Dec 5, 2022

DCPU said:
Rather oddly, it doesn't appear they use the obvious fittings, but rather remove the grab handles above the rear passenger doors and bolt the cargo barrier into there:
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is it not for a net (not Anette)?

Logsplitter · Dec 5, 2022

I’m getting the two Seater and that fixing looks awful. I’m sure I’ve seen a picture somewhere of it attached to the P shaped fixings.

DCPU · Dec 5, 2022

That's certainly shown as fitting in this fitting, albeit is in the one behind the rear seats:

DCPU · Dec 5, 2022

Logsplitter said:
I’m getting the two Seater and that fixing looks awful. I’m sure I’ve seen a picture somewhere of it attached to the P shaped fixings.

Could it be you were looking at the half height fitted behind the rear seats in a Belstaff:

Logsplitter · Dec 5, 2022

Maybe that’s what I saw. But really can’t see any good reason why the full height barrier couldn’t be manufactured to fit the P shaped fixing brackets. It’ll all come clear soon I suppose. In the meanwhile we can all keep surmising what all the final details will be like. I’m sure Ineos have a few nice final surprises up their sleeves for the final production/customer vehicles.

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