Vic High Country Fire

[Braydo]

Another fire. Looks to have started under the bonnet, consistent with reports from the Stockton beach fire. Are we up to 3 or 4 reported fires now?

This is not my photo and I was not there. The photo was posted this evening on a local high country forum. The accompanying comment only stated that all occupants are fine and vehicle is being recovered.

 

[CRH]

Another fire. Looks to have started under the bonnet, consistent with reports from the Stockton beach fire. Are we up to 3 or 4 reported fires now?

View attachment 7876367

This is not my photo and I was not there. The photo was posted this evening on a local high country forum. The accompanying comment only stated that all occupants are fine and vehicle is being recovered.

Do we know if they are all the same fuel or a mix?
I think they said something was removed from my engine area due to heat build up when it was in for work. I can't be sure or do I know what it was, it was part of a list of things they had to do when vehicles were in the shop.

 

[ADVAW8S]

This is pure speculation but more of a question. Where is the jump post located under the bonnet. In my L663, the jump post is almost right at the point of the fire. Could some one have an electrical connection to the jump post.

 

[Logsplitter]

This is pure speculation but more of a question. Where is the jump post located under the bonnet. In my L663, the jump post is almost right at the point of the fire. Could some one have an electrical connection to the jump post.

Jump start post is front right side on mine

 

[Karearea]

Same here, early Trialmaster diesel.

 

[Tazzieman]

Fire could be several things but looks like RHS exhaust manifold area probably the ignition source.
Even a ruptured brake line could cause this.
Should be able to pinpoint the cause once the experts go in.

 

[TheDocAUS]

That fire damage to the bonnet suggests the fire was well back in the engine bay.

 

[Clark Kent]

I think they said something was removed from my engine area due to heat build up when it was in for work. I can't be sure or do I know what it was, it was part of a list of things they had to do when vehicles were in the shop.

My vehicle has just been in for some warranty work. Their senior Ineos technician pulled out a piece of insulation material that runs across the back of the cylinder head between the head and the firewall. He said there is a campaign from IA to remove and discard that section.

 

[Shopkeep]

Another fire. Looks to have started under the bonnet, consistent with reports from the Stockton beach fire. Are we up to 3 or 4 reported fires now?

View attachment 7876367

This is not my photo and I was not there. The photo was posted this evening on a local high country forum. The accompanying comment only stated that all occupants are fine and vehicle is being recovered.

So there was the Stockton beach fire which was a completely burnt out shell and this more compartmentalised fire, that makes two. Where were the other one or two you mentioned?

 

[Braydo]

So there was the Stockton beach fire which was a completely burnt out shell and this more compartmentalised fire, that makes two. Where were the other one or two you mentioned?

One in Germany and I think there was one somewhere in Africa as well. Here's the link to the thread on the German incident:

Ineos Grenadier burned down in Germany - Technical defect

I just came by that news. In Wapelfeld, Germany the IG of a lady caught fire and burned down on 03-01-2024. She was able to leave the car and get away safe. The police said it was a technical defect...

www.theineosforum.com

 

[Shopkeep]

One in Germany and I think there was one somewhere in Africa as well. Here's the link to the thread on the German incident:

Ineos Grenadier burned down in Germany - Technical defect

I just came by that news. In Wapelfeld, Germany the IG of a lady caught fire and burned down on 03-01-2024. She was able to leave the car and get away safe. The police said it was a technical defect...

www.theineosforum.com

Found a link to the African one:
https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/we-didnt-start-the-fire.12415715/

 

[CRH]

My vehicle has just been in for some warranty work. Their senior Ineos technician pulled out a piece of insulation material that runs across the back of the cylinder head between the head and the firewall. He said there is a campaign from IA to remove and discard that section.

That was it, my memory is getting worse

 

[Shopkeep]

Me thinks I will go the dry powder extinguisher option, especially after seeing the photo above. When you do a bit of reading there’s little chance of “saving” your vehicle in terms of an insurance write off in the case of these fires, your only hope is to ensure everyone escapes safely and hopefully you can prevent the fire from consuming the vehicle and save your accessories & tools to reuse on the next one. There is no way I would recover the full value of all the extra kit on and in my Grenadier in the case of a fire insurance claim. Looks like the owner of this vehicle won’t have to go shopping for a new roof top tent and set of maxtrax.

 

[AWo]

Dry powder, it depends....they create huge impurities themself. Or worse. Dry powder extinguisher consist of sodium carbonate or potassium carbonate. It creates a extremely fine dust which goes everywhere. Together with water (condensation, humidity) it starts corrosion, especially on cabling and contacts. You can achieve the most important thing with it and maybe safe life, but don't expect you car will be saved, as well, on the long run.

The extinguisher powder together with smut gets slimy and is difficult to remove. You need someone who is specialised in cleaning fire damage, there are special cleaning matters for that kind of damage. But your car electric is most probably ruined.

But the most important thing is to get the fire out, to safe live and to prevent the fire from expanding to other things...and that's where powder is good at.

There are foam spray (like Abus https://www.abus.com/int/Consumer/Fire-safety-hazard-alarms/Fire-safety/Fire-extinguishing-spray) which can be cleaned of easily, but they are only of real use if the fire is small or has just started.

AWo

 

[Shopkeep]

Dry powder, it depends....they create huge impurities themself. Or worse. Dry powder extinguisher consist of sodium carbonate or potassium carbonate. It creates a extremely fine dust which goes everywhere. Together with water (condensation, humidity) it starts corrosion, especially on cabling and contacts. You can achieve the most important thing with it and maybe safe life, but don't expect you car will be saved, as well, on the long run.

The extinguisher powder together with smut gets slimy and is difficult to remove. You need someone who is specialised in cleaning fire damage, there are special cleaning matters for that kind of damage. But your car electric is most probably ruined.

But the most important thing is to get the fire out, to safe live and to prevent the fire from expanding to other things...and that's where powder is good at.

There are foam spray (like Abus https://www.abus.com/int/Consumer/Fire-safety-hazard-alarms/Fire-safety/Fire-extinguishing-spray) which can be cleaned of easily, but they are only of real use if the fire is small or has just started.

AWo

In the case of an engine bay fire there is little chance of it not being a write off (especially given the lack of basic parts availability) so all I want is to put out the fire quickly and save my gear. The slime and smut will be the wreckers problem. Dry powder and a couple of packs of marshmallows/smores for me.

 

[Logsplitter]

I’ve got a Firexo but don’t know what the implications are of using that on the vehicle are . Hopefully never have to use it

 

[Shopkeep]

I’ve got a Firexo but don’t know what the implications are of using that on the vehicle are . Hopefully never have to use it View attachment 7876467

These look like a great option but could not find them available for sale in Australia. When you look at the safety data sheet it does not disclose the contents saying the chemicals used are proprietary and a trade secret. Might be something in there not approved for use in our part of the world?

 

[OGrid]

I’m thinking of sourcing this engine bay temperature sensor and wiring it up.

Blue LED Display Thermometer with 3mtr External Sensor | Jaycar Australia

Panel mountable temperature guage, - -14+120deg reading - IP66 rated

www.jaycar.com.au

(Australian online store)

 

[Tazzieman]

I’m thinking of sourcing this engine bay temperature sensor and wiring it up.

Blue LED Display Thermometer with 3mtr External Sensor | Jaycar Australia

Panel mountable temperature guage, - -14+120deg reading - IP66 rated

www.jaycar.com.au

(Australian online store)

Where will you put it, and what are your chances of saving the situation?
A smoke detector?
Then again, that'd be set off all the time , vapers everywhere in cities and bushfires all summer.

 

[OGrid]

Where will you put it, and what are your chances of saving the situation?
A smoke detector?
Then again, that'd be set off all the time , vapers everywhere in cities and bushfires all summer.

More out of interest.

The coolant temp sensor didn’t help me either when a coolant pipe burst on the way home after picking up my new vehicle, the engine overheated and shutdown. No warning.