UPDATE August 7th, 2022: It was said recently, that the rear mounting holes for the back seats might be welded over in the Utility versions - maybe as a "stimulus" to buy the more expensive "Edition" versions.
Maybe you can grind down the weldings spots then, but nobody knows whether there will be a thread below ...
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Yesterday, on the "Abenteuer und Allrad 2022" fair, I could catch some information concerning the question "Utility vs, Station Wagon, second seat row".
I talked do Werner, the white-haired driver from the Romania video:
It was about the differences between both, the Utility and the Station Wagon.
He told me, that, with respect to the seat row mount, both cars are the same. The seat row is mounted with 16 screws. You can remove them, and move the seat forward (in the Station wagon) or backwards (in the Utility) and then mount them in the extra screw holes which exist, according to his explanations, in both cars similarly. Thus, the only difference is which mounting points are chosen: more forward or more backwards.
What I don't know, is, whether and how how the steeper backrest can be aligned accordingly. My fault. But with this information in mind, somebody else will know which questions to ask.
However: my impression is that the Ineos associates do in fact not know how this is implemented (but the drivers do).
Werner told me, that he has ordered a 5-seat Utility version. Mounting the second seat row further back makes it a Station Wagon. "It's that simple" he said.
As for the battery and the electronics below the seat: It's for all cars the same mounting. The rear cargo area is higher than the floor between the seat rows. So a 2-seater has just a cover instead of the second seat row, that's all.
See my photographs below. The white car is from the Matzker stand and is AFAIK a 2B prototype.
The foot mount of the seat viewed from top:
This photo is from the from the PTO1 (a Station Wagon):
I couldn't take better photos with my pocket camera, I am sorry. But you get the idea.
A second step is necessary to clarify the bracket question for the back rest. But I am quite sure they are as generic as the seat mount is.
For me, my solution will be similar to Werners:
I would order a 5-seat utility (with metal panels instead of read windows). This would enable me to register the car as a Utility, which means about 200 ⬠tax/year instead of 1000 ⬠..., insurance a bit more expensive but still a significant win.
Removing the backseat is no problem. The cover DIY or original from Ineas - if available.
Utility or Station wagon: It's basically the same. Only the bracket question is open.
One thing to mention however: The drivers know the Prototypes very well. But we don't know about the production versions yet. The PTO1 looks very much the same, but the details are covered by carpet. So as of today, don't rely on this. I will however base may decision on this, as my deadline is June, 18th.
Perhaps this may help you to save some money: A Trialmaster is fine, but if a utility can be configured alike, It might be the better choice, in particular may be for the tax. And the metal panels can any time be converted into gull-wing windows.
Maybe you can grind down the weldings spots then, but nobody knows whether there will be a thread below ...
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Yesterday, on the "Abenteuer und Allrad 2022" fair, I could catch some information concerning the question "Utility vs, Station Wagon, second seat row".
I talked do Werner, the white-haired driver from the Romania video:
It was about the differences between both, the Utility and the Station Wagon.
He told me, that, with respect to the seat row mount, both cars are the same. The seat row is mounted with 16 screws. You can remove them, and move the seat forward (in the Station wagon) or backwards (in the Utility) and then mount them in the extra screw holes which exist, according to his explanations, in both cars similarly. Thus, the only difference is which mounting points are chosen: more forward or more backwards.
What I don't know, is, whether and how how the steeper backrest can be aligned accordingly. My fault. But with this information in mind, somebody else will know which questions to ask.
However: my impression is that the Ineos associates do in fact not know how this is implemented (but the drivers do).
Werner told me, that he has ordered a 5-seat Utility version. Mounting the second seat row further back makes it a Station Wagon. "It's that simple" he said.
As for the battery and the electronics below the seat: It's for all cars the same mounting. The rear cargo area is higher than the floor between the seat rows. So a 2-seater has just a cover instead of the second seat row, that's all.
See my photographs below. The white car is from the Matzker stand and is AFAIK a 2B prototype.
The foot mount of the seat viewed from top:
This photo is from the from the PTO1 (a Station Wagon):
I couldn't take better photos with my pocket camera, I am sorry. But you get the idea.
A second step is necessary to clarify the bracket question for the back rest. But I am quite sure they are as generic as the seat mount is.
For me, my solution will be similar to Werners:
I would order a 5-seat utility (with metal panels instead of read windows). This would enable me to register the car as a Utility, which means about 200 ⬠tax/year instead of 1000 ⬠..., insurance a bit more expensive but still a significant win.
Removing the backseat is no problem. The cover DIY or original from Ineas - if available.
Utility or Station wagon: It's basically the same. Only the bracket question is open.
One thing to mention however: The drivers know the Prototypes very well. But we don't know about the production versions yet. The PTO1 looks very much the same, but the details are covered by carpet. So as of today, don't rely on this. I will however base may decision on this, as my deadline is June, 18th.
Perhaps this may help you to save some money: A Trialmaster is fine, but if a utility can be configured alike, It might be the better choice, in particular may be for the tax. And the metal panels can any time be converted into gull-wing windows.
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