As many of you have read, on October 29th the Dana left me without a car. I have no idea how long it will take until I am compensated for the total loss of the vehicle, nor how much it will be, but what is clear is that I will have plenty of time to think about what to do. If this had not happened, I would never have considered changing the car, since even with its constant false warnings, problems with the wheel sensors and some other software nonsense, I love the car. But having to start from scratch due to a situation beyond my control, I have many doubts, more related to the AI problems than to the car itself.
Facts:
The Ineos factory is closed, “Provisionally” Until ……….
What they tell us is that they have problems with a supplier, which forces them to stop production.
The supplier says that their problems are caused by Ineos not buying the agreed volumes. This has decapitalised them and caused them to go bankrupt.
Ineos is not selling the number of cars that it had planned. In two years it has not reached the number that it had planned to sell annually.
Sales in Europe have been very, very low compared to initial forecasts.
In Spain, barely 40 units have been sold.
The decision not to manufacture the Fusilier, or any other electric car, harms the tax burden on the production of the Granadier.
The multiple software problems have harmed the reputation of the Granadier.
The sales system has not pleased the Dealers.
The AI promises have not been fulfilled. ease of obtaining parts, self-repair by the vehicle owner “Workshop Manual”, excessive delay in spare parts, impossibility of resetting maintenance periods, delay and non-existence in the usual channels for replacement of windshields, inoperative customer service, lack of information. etc, etc, etc.
As you can see, I am referring to the current situation of INEOS Automotive, NOT the car, which has been gradually solving most of the initial problems, but in light of all the above I cannot help but think that there is much more than what they are telling us, which does not necessarily have to be bad, but when there is not enough information, doubts appear.
Personal reflections:
I think that Ineos Automotive needed a Stand by, to reconsider what to do (beyond the seats) in the face of the accumulation of circumstances previously mentioned and to find complex solutions to the problems it is currently having. Being very positive and optimistic, perhaps it should be considering:
. Fulfilling what it promised.
. Improving the Software.
. perhaps adding a mild-hybrid system that allows it to have less tax pressure.
. Changing the model of the current sales system, making real concessions to distributors, and increasing the number of dealers.
. Changing the current standard of models starting with a cheaper “Basic” model as an entry point, which will help increase sales, not everyone who likes the image of the Grenadier needs its exceptional performance.
. Getting a commercial model that does not have problems in recovering VAT.
. etc, etc.
Given all this, I have to consider what to do, I know what you are going to tell me, as it could not be otherwise, and thinking with my heart I think the same, get another Grenadier, but if I think with reason the thing is much more complex, since I cannot ignore that:
Is IA trying to solve what is being raised? or it simply does not know what to do and is questioning the profitability/continuity of the project.
The largest market for Ineos so far has been the USA. A potential increase in tariffs would weigh on the decisions to be made.
In Europe, taxes on this type of Vehicle are skyrocketing in a brutal way. making it almost impossible to buy.
If IA is trying to solve the problems, and I hope it is, how long can it take to address these problems?
Would you buy an Ineos from the dealerships if you thought that they would be improved in some way in a short time? Software, Adas, etc., and that it will also surely be difficult to find one in Spain that suits what you are looking for (there are very few units).
My dealership, which is about 30 km away, is considering ceasing to be one, given the poor sales of the vehicle and the problems of all kinds that it is having with IA. If in the end it disappears as an Ineos dealership, the closest one will be 350 km from my house.
Well, I am aware that I have given you a good piece of shit, but my head does not stop, and I needed to tell my concerns to someone who understands what I am talking about, and who better than you to do it. Tell me what you think, your honest opinion on what is happening with IA, if you think I am totally wrong and it is the result of frustration for losing the car. At the moment I am clear on what I have to do and that is to wait for the resolution of the accident. Beyond that, there are only doubts.
A hug, friends.
Paco Garcia
Facts:
The Ineos factory is closed, “Provisionally” Until ……….
What they tell us is that they have problems with a supplier, which forces them to stop production.
The supplier says that their problems are caused by Ineos not buying the agreed volumes. This has decapitalised them and caused them to go bankrupt.
Ineos is not selling the number of cars that it had planned. In two years it has not reached the number that it had planned to sell annually.
Sales in Europe have been very, very low compared to initial forecasts.
In Spain, barely 40 units have been sold.
The decision not to manufacture the Fusilier, or any other electric car, harms the tax burden on the production of the Granadier.
The multiple software problems have harmed the reputation of the Granadier.
The sales system has not pleased the Dealers.
The AI promises have not been fulfilled. ease of obtaining parts, self-repair by the vehicle owner “Workshop Manual”, excessive delay in spare parts, impossibility of resetting maintenance periods, delay and non-existence in the usual channels for replacement of windshields, inoperative customer service, lack of information. etc, etc, etc.
As you can see, I am referring to the current situation of INEOS Automotive, NOT the car, which has been gradually solving most of the initial problems, but in light of all the above I cannot help but think that there is much more than what they are telling us, which does not necessarily have to be bad, but when there is not enough information, doubts appear.
Personal reflections:
I think that Ineos Automotive needed a Stand by, to reconsider what to do (beyond the seats) in the face of the accumulation of circumstances previously mentioned and to find complex solutions to the problems it is currently having. Being very positive and optimistic, perhaps it should be considering:
. Fulfilling what it promised.
. Improving the Software.
. perhaps adding a mild-hybrid system that allows it to have less tax pressure.
. Changing the model of the current sales system, making real concessions to distributors, and increasing the number of dealers.
. Changing the current standard of models starting with a cheaper “Basic” model as an entry point, which will help increase sales, not everyone who likes the image of the Grenadier needs its exceptional performance.
. Getting a commercial model that does not have problems in recovering VAT.
. etc, etc.
Given all this, I have to consider what to do, I know what you are going to tell me, as it could not be otherwise, and thinking with my heart I think the same, get another Grenadier, but if I think with reason the thing is much more complex, since I cannot ignore that:
Is IA trying to solve what is being raised? or it simply does not know what to do and is questioning the profitability/continuity of the project.
The largest market for Ineos so far has been the USA. A potential increase in tariffs would weigh on the decisions to be made.
In Europe, taxes on this type of Vehicle are skyrocketing in a brutal way. making it almost impossible to buy.
If IA is trying to solve the problems, and I hope it is, how long can it take to address these problems?
Would you buy an Ineos from the dealerships if you thought that they would be improved in some way in a short time? Software, Adas, etc., and that it will also surely be difficult to find one in Spain that suits what you are looking for (there are very few units).
My dealership, which is about 30 km away, is considering ceasing to be one, given the poor sales of the vehicle and the problems of all kinds that it is having with IA. If in the end it disappears as an Ineos dealership, the closest one will be 350 km from my house.
Well, I am aware that I have given you a good piece of shit, but my head does not stop, and I needed to tell my concerns to someone who understands what I am talking about, and who better than you to do it. Tell me what you think, your honest opinion on what is happening with IA, if you think I am totally wrong and it is the result of frustration for losing the car. At the moment I am clear on what I have to do and that is to wait for the resolution of the accident. Beyond that, there are only doubts.
A hug, friends.
Paco Garcia
